[cajungirl]

I watched the debate and saw that ‘moment’ and think much is being made of it undeservedly. She came across and very focused, mad but not shrewish.

I think Hill is in a box. One little thing and it is magnified to an extreme.

I don’t like or want her but I think this is being overplayed and may end up not hurting her. It was if everyone was poised, just waiting for her to show anything of a feeling side and ready to pounce.

In short, I had a moment of sympathy for her. ANd if I, a diehard Hillary hater, had a moment of sympathy, she may garner some sympathy.

[SkyPilot]

I watched the debate and saw that ‘moment’ and think much is being made of it undeservedly. She came across and very focused, mad but not shrewish. I think Hill is in a box. One little thing and it is magnified to an extreme.

Agreed. While she comes across as angry jerk, that is what she always comes across as (when she is not being phony with this "softer side" garbage).

What we are witnessing is the MSM running away from her, and siding with Obama.

They finally realized she is not electable nationally.

The MSM did the same thing four years ago with the "Dean Scream."

Yes - Dean is a weirdo - but he had been screaming and doing that bit for months during the campaign.

The MSM loved it - until they woke up and realized he would never be electable in the general election.

Dean Scream

So, after the scream, they ran it, and re-ran it so he would be destroyed and the candidates the elites picked, Kerry the "war hero" - would emerge.

Was "The Scream" that terrible? Not really - it was typical Dean, and the MSM knew it. But they realized that he couldn't win. So they torpedoed him.

There is a FR thread from yesterday that documents how the MSM has acted as "king maker" for Democrat Presidential candidates ever since McGovern was the nominee and got shelled by Nixon. The MSM decided to take the process over.

[Judith Anne]

I didn’t feel any sympathy for her. The main thing is she reminds me of people I’ve known who try to dominate by being verbally aggressive. She spoke for a solid minute, haranguing all the men, who looked to me as though they were embarrassed for her.

Besides, I don’t remember her taking on the drug companies, or the oil companies, or any of those “changes” she insisted she’d made.

She’s America’s ex-wife. A shrew. A bully. Nothing less. Boring woman, and ugly in her attitude as well.

[theelephantway]

I can’t stand her but I agree with your assessment.

[garbanzo]

I sort of have to agree with you. Let me make clear that I’m no fan of Hillary. But she was assertive and passionate in a way that were she a male, would have been a plus for her.

[CaspersGh0sts]

After all these posts, I think I agree with you most on all of this.

I have seen Hillary far more out of control than she is here. She seemed taken aback momentarily and then a bit put off, but this is very typical of her.

All this actually does dishearten me a bit. I absolutely want her to be the Democrat nominee. For one thing, I actually think she’d smite the Hugo Chavez’ in the world or anyone who dared challenge her authority on an international scale—probably moreso than some Republicans running. But for the most part, I just think she’d lose.

All that said, I think the media is making a deliberate attempt, as you say, to mangify her every move right now.

[randita]

I was expecting the “moment” to be a lot more than it was. I watched the clip waiting for something to happen and it never did. It was just Hillary being Hillary, as far as I saw it. Didn’t surprise me.

The DBM seem ready to dump her in favor of O, but need justification to do so. It would seem fickle for the DBM to back O just because they thought he was going to win (although we know that is the real reason). They need a compelling “fig leaf” reason why they no longer support Hillary which maintains their credibility (what little of it they have left).

[rod1]

Yeah but her reputation precedes her and she plays into it with any slip.

Everyone knows about the flying lamps and the unending sting of four letter words for the secrete service people who were watching for danger (their job), etc. and not toteing her bags they way she wanted it. Everyone knows how she treated lifelong White House employees. So for people to view the face, etcand know where its been, that is associated with heapings of undserved (or in the case of Bubba who knows)....abuse. and images reminding people of abuse will not win election

[TexasCajun]

ANd if I, a diehard Hillary hater, had a moment of sympathy, she may garner some sympathy

Ahhh, the guys were picking on the poor girl and now you have sympathy for her?

Have another cup of coffee. :}

[Jimmy Valentine]

The problem for her is that she has completely lost her momentum. Taken in that context, her response looks desperate and forced, rather than a strong pointed response.

[bill1952]

In short, I had a moment of sympathy for her

Sorry, but all that it showed was a bitch who gets angry when cornered and then resorts to total lies.

I have 35 years of experience with change. - Please.

Thats kind of like a 16 year old with 16 years of experience, and it is wearing more thin than a Baltimore Pimp’s patent leather shoes.

No sympathy from me.

[Scotswife]

“In short, I had a moment of sympathy for her.”

You are a very kind person.

here...let me see if I can help.

I live in NY and vividly remember during her run for senate the day in Rochester when Hill and her goons took over a catholic church.
There were many parishioners protesting outside due to her position on abortion, and they were also displeased with the fact she had been even been given permission to speak at the church.
Her goon roughed some of those people at their own church, blocked their entrance from their own church, and she went on with yet another scripted pre-approved questions only appearance.

I thoroughly enjoyed watching Edwards needle Hillary into that moment of shrewness.
She cannot handle being challenged - she just wants everyone to shut up and hand over her crown already.

[Wilderness Conservative]

“In short, I had a moment of sympathy for her. And if I, a diehard Hillary hater, had a moment of sympathy, she may garner some sympathy.”
That and your other points are well made. I would totally agree with you on everything it’s just all those dang Arkancides get in the way of me feeling sorry for Team Clinton.

[rightsidenow]

I saw the clip too. She did look very angry… My questions is, Hillary keeps talking about some 35 years of experience. What 35 years of experience is she talking about?
Lie’s, Lie’s and more Lie’s the old Clinton Tactic of if you say enough they will believe it. Well it’s not working this time like it did in the 90’s. Clinton talked about healthcare,
Does everyone remember back in 1993-94 when she was putting together her plan for
universal healthcare, it was behind locked doors under secrecy and no one was aloud in, that’s a perfect example of what this country would get if she made it to the white house.

[Egon]

I watched the debate and saw that ‘moment’ and think much is being made of it undeservedly. She came across and very focused, mad but not shrewish.

I agree completely. I can't stand the woman, but I didn't see anything here that, if it weren't Hillary, would have caused any comment whatsoever.

I think she actually made her point very well.

[Scotswife]

Here ya go...I figured there must have been an old freeper thread on that occasion...

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39fd12887afd.htm

[Polybius]

I watched the debate and saw that ‘moment’ and think much is being made of it undeservedly. ... I don’t like or want her but I think this is being overplayed

Agreed.

Has America become so feminized that nobody can show any forcefulness without being accused of hurting somebody's overly sensitive feelings?

Do we really want to be a nation where everybody must come across as if they were auditioning for "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"? If so, let's just all vote for the Breck Girl in November.

As for me, no thanks. I already have to put up with too much of that crap out here on the Left Coast as it is.

Give me an America where a candidate for the Oval Office is not disqualified from the Oval Office by an "I paid for this microphone!" moment.

[ARCADIA]

Absolutely agree with you!!

I am not a Hillary fan either, but I was appalled at the reaction to her response.

She was not shrewish in the least - but focused and pointed. But, then I am a woman and I have seen men tag teaming a woman in meetings. Edwards came across like a jerk and Obama as someone letting one of his henchmen do this dirty work for him.