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White House OKs Mexican truck program (despite a new law by Congress against it)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/4/08 | Andrew Taylor - ap

Posted on 01/04/2008 2:48:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - The Bush administration is going ahead with a controversial pilot program giving Mexican trucks greater access to U.S. highways despite a new law by Congress against it.

The decision to proceed with the four-month-old program, which allows participating Mexican trucking companies to send loads throughout the United States, comes despite language in the recently signed catchall spending bill aimed at blocking it.

But the Department of Transportation is taking advantage of a loophole in the new law, which prohibits the government from spending any money to "establish" the program. The government says the new rules don't apply to the current program since it was started in September.

"The U.S. Department of Transportation will not establish any new demonstration programs with Mexico," said Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration spokeswoman Melissa Mazzella DeLaney. "The current cross-border trucking demonstration project — established in September — will continue to operate in a manner that puts safety first."

Congressional opponents of the programs insist that it's clear what lawmakers were trying to do last year when both House and Senate voted against allowing the program to go forward.

The provision, as signed by President Bush last month, says: "None of the funds made available under this act may be used to establish a cross-border motor carrier demonstration program to allow Mexico-domiciled motor carriers to operate beyond the commercial zones along the international border between the United States and Mexico."

"They know what the law says," retorted Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who won a 74-24 vote to block the program. "And they're not above the law." Dorgan warned they better follow the law.

The hotly contested program, opposed by labor, independent truck owners and environmental groups, permits up to 500 trucks from 100 Mexican motor carriers full access to U.S. roads.

Opponents have been fighting the measure — part of the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement — since it was first proposed, saying the program will erode highway safety and eliminate U.S. jobs. And they say that there are insufficient safeguards exist to make sure that Mexican trucks are as safe as U.S. carriers.

"When you open up U.S. highways to long-haul Mexican trucks without equivalent safety standards, it poses risks for American drivers," Dorgan said.

Supporters of the plan say letting more Mexican trucks on U.S. highways will save American consumers hundreds of millions of dollars. And they say U.S. trucking companies will benefit since reciprocal changes in Mexico's rules permit U.S. trucks new access to that country.

Since 1982, Mexican trucks have had to stop within a buffer border zone and transfer their loads to U.S. trucks.

Still, there's widespread opposition to the program within Congress. The House voted without a roll call in July to block the program and the Senate's 3-to-1 margin in September to block it came despite administration assurances that safeguards are in place to "ensure a safe and secure program."

The Teamsters Union, Sierra Club and Public Citizen joined together in a lawsuit filed in August seeking to block the program.

A hearing is scheduled for Feb. 12 before the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, Teamsters spokeswoman Leslie Miller said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mexican; mexicantrucks; program; truck; trucking; whitehouse
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Nothing to see here, let’s move along to the latest “Pray for President Bush”...

I keep wanting to post: "I pray Bush learns to say nuclear instead of nukyaler."

I just can't.

41 posted on 01/04/2008 4:39:49 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: Doc Savage

I assume Tijuana. I assume photos. I assume blackmail. I assume a Mexican paternity case that was hushed up. I assume kickbacks. There has to be some reason why a President of United States of America loves Mexico and illegals MORE than his own country. Someone want to explain this guy’s actions to me

Exactly-what the Heck is it????????? It’s very fishy indeed.


42 posted on 01/04/2008 4:46:54 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Diplomat; Perchant; Extremely Extreme Extremist
The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was implemented on January 1, 1994. Its purpose was to remove tariff barriers between Canada, the United States and Mexico. The Agreement includes two supplemental agreements on environmental and labor issues that address cooperative efforts to reconcile policies and procedures for dispute resolution between the member countries. The North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation (NAFTA) Act may be found at P.L. 103-192 or 107 Stat. 2057 (1993).

NAFTA was preceded by an agreement between the United States and Canada entitled the U.S.-Canada Free Trade Agreement, which was enacted on January 1, 1989, but has now been superseded by the NAFTA.

The North American Free Trade Agreement, known usually as NAFTA, is a comprehensive trade agreement linking Canada, the United States, and Mexico in a free trade sphere. NAFTA went into effect on January 1, 1994.

To say Reagan supported NAFTA is not true. He supported a trade agreement with Canada. NAFTA didn't even exist when Reagan was in office.

43 posted on 01/04/2008 4:48:24 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: ImpBill

We need to bombard Congress, Presidential Candidates, Congressmen, Senators, etc. with letters communicating our outrage with the border issues. Collectively we can help force our leaders to pay attention and take action. Have any of you seen the new Chris Burgard Film, “Border: the Divide between the American Dream and the American Nightmare”? Just saw it last weekend. It is a documentary that will make your blood boil. Fact is, we as one giant loud and clear voice, have to pressure our representatives to pay attention and be engaged to resolve the border/immigration problem.


45 posted on 01/04/2008 5:09:10 PM PST by Body Snatcher
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To: Diplomat
Because the NAFTA trade agreement signed by president Clinton and ratified by the Senate dictates that this happens. Bush is following the law.

Treaty agteements supercede Federal law, always have.

What treaty?

Note that the House vote was 234-200 and the Senate vote was 61-38.

A treaty requires no House concurrence but does require the concurrence of 2/3s of the Senators "present." [U. S. Constitution - Article II; Section 2].

Two-thirds of the Senate present for the NAFTA vote did not concur. The Bill was passed but no treaty was authorized.

NAFTA is not a treaty.

NAFTA has the force of law. As with any law, it can be changed or abolished with the passage of another law.


U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 1st Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the SenateVote Summary

Question: On Passage of the Bill (H.R.3450 )
Vote Number: 395 Vote Date: November 20, 1993, 07:28 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 3450
Measure Title: A bill to implement the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Vote Counts: YEAs 61

NAYs 38

Not Voting 1

More details on Senate vote here: U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote:

U. S. House FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 575
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 3450      RECORDED VOTE      17-Nov-1993      10:36 PM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTATION ACT


Ayes Noes PRES NV
Democratic 102 156    
Republican 132 43    
Independent   1    
TOTALS 234 200    

More details on the House vote here: Final Vote Results for Roll Call 575


46 posted on 01/04/2008 5:16:28 PM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: Diplomat
Exactly WHEN did congress get the power to pass laws which invalidate U.S. Treaty agreements?

Gheesh, when did America honoring it’s treaty agreements become to mean Bush hates working people?

See post above. Sorry to have made you look like a real idiot here; but next time, you might want to do some homework before posting.

47 posted on 01/04/2008 5:25:13 PM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is NOT A GOOD THING.
Anytime I agree with the Teamsters, you know there's a problem.
I was an independent contract carrier for 5 years and have seen the trucks coming out of Mexico.
You'll see a lot of those trucks parked at scale houses waiting for a mechanic.
48 posted on 01/04/2008 5:59:04 PM PST by concretebob (If liberals aren't traitors, their only defense at this point is they are incredibly stupid)
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To: NormsRevenge

And to think I actually voted for Jorge twice.

In the primaries, I’m not hearing much about illegal immigration from candidates of either party. Yet polls show it’s the number one issue of voters. A helluva lot of money must be changing hands.


49 posted on 01/04/2008 6:01:53 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Veto!
In the primaries, I’m not hearing much about illegal immigration from candidates of either party. Yet polls show it’s the number one issue of voters. A helluva lot of money must be changing hands.

It's the same old story year in, year out.

50 posted on 01/04/2008 6:06:17 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush is a globalist...no other reason...


51 posted on 01/04/2008 6:11:36 PM PST by lawdog
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To: dragnet2
It's the same old story year in, year out.

Everyone's fed up. That's why candidates promising CHANGE are doing so well. Trouble is, they don't specify what kind of change and how they'll achieve it. Almost certainly the change will be worse than the status quo. Horrible thought.

52 posted on 01/04/2008 6:13:48 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Colorado Buckeye

Correct...

NAFTA is not a treaty. It was never submitted to the Senate as a treaty and did not receive the two-thirds majority vote that treaty ratification requires, but instead was enacted in 1993 by a congressional-executive agreement.


53 posted on 01/04/2008 6:25:27 PM PST by lawdog
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To: Diplomat

Furthermore...

On February 6, 2001, a five-member international tribunal established by NAFTA declared the United States to be in breach of its obligations to Mexico because of restrictions on the entry of foreign trucks. The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) ignored U.S. domestic statutes (including the National Environmental Protection Act and the Clean Air Act) and ordered implementation of the decision.


54 posted on 01/04/2008 6:28:47 PM PST by lawdog
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To: lawdog
Enough of this crap.

IMPEACH BUSH !!

55 posted on 01/04/2008 6:37:19 PM PST by SENTINEL (The only way to win a war with your mouth is to pull grenade pins with your teeth.)
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To: untrained skeptic
"This is the same congress that keeps passing legislation to build a border fence and then undermining or not funding the fence before it gets built. "

Duncan Hunter's fence was funded- the ONLY problem with it was Jorge Boosh. It was his sworn duty to defend the border, and he is derelict in doing his duty. Can't blame this one on congress.

56 posted on 01/04/2008 6:57:16 PM PST by matthew fuller (Fred D. Thompson / John R. Bolton, 2008)
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To: lawdog

I think that’s what the Sierra Club and Public Citizen argued, but the U.S. Supreme Court shot them down.


57 posted on 01/04/2008 7:01:38 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Diplomat

Nafta did not supercede the safety of vehicles on public highways,and you want a wholesale disaster,unleash the tens of thousands of trucks that will cross everyday,carrying drugs,illegals,bad tires,bad brakes,untrained drivers,this is another disaster we will bring upon ourselves so American companies in Mexico get direct trucking to the consumers.
The cost to the public will be enormous,but I’m positive that statistically,government sources will show us what a bonanza we have.


58 posted on 01/04/2008 7:02:26 PM PST by coalman
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To: NormsRevenge

A read on NAFTA

http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_bp147


59 posted on 01/04/2008 7:46:01 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: NormsRevenge

In an election year, I just don’t see how this will help the Republican cause. Terrible move!


60 posted on 01/04/2008 7:57:03 PM PST by TheLion
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