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This is a follow-up to this thread: Savage vs. CAIR: The battle over free speech.

The terrorists, and their supporters continue to brand all speech as hate speech, if they disagree with it. And in doing so, the terrorists, and their supporters, continue their unrelenting attack on our constitution and our liberties.

1 posted on 01/04/2008 10:38:19 AM PST by SmithL
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2 posted on 01/04/2008 10:39:05 AM PST by SmithL (Fred!)
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In 2004, Savage stated "I think (Muslims) need to be forcibly converted to Christianity ... It's the only thing that can probably turn them into human beings." In 2006, he called for a ban on Muslim immigration and recommended making "the construction of mosques illegal in America."

Sounds like a plan.

3 posted on 01/04/2008 10:47:19 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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San Francisco Chronicle - Safaa Ibrahim

The author is a SanFransicko Muslim... tells it all.

Michael Savage (...) hate-speech against (...)Jews

Does the moron muslim author actually know that Michael Weiner (aka Savage) is a pro-Israel Jew?

6 posted on 01/04/2008 10:52:01 AM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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Most of Michael Savage’s comments are taken out of text. I support Mr. Savage and have even donated to the lawsuit agaist CAIR. Please help fight Isamofacism and vist michaelsavage.com. To label any speech is a direct attempt to limit free speech. Lets not omit the fact the Mr. Savage is suing CAIR not the other way around. CAIR has slander Mr. Savage and continue to do so, now their gonna have to pay the price.


7 posted on 01/04/2008 10:52:02 AM PST by AmericanGunner
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Hey, Safaa Ibrahim.

Get back to me when your co-religionists stop hijacking airplanes, flying them into buildings, blowing up supermarkets, pubs, busses, trains and schools, sawing-off innocent people’s heads, and calling for the extermination of the Jews in your textbooks.

Okay?

Until then, hearing you mewling about “hate” speech would be laughable, if your “religion” were not so unspeakably evil at its core and the single greatest threat to civilization for the entire 1400 years of its miserable existence.


8 posted on 01/04/2008 10:52:28 AM PST by Westbrook
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"Of course, most elementary school students will tell you that hate speech is not to be confused with free speech."

Thank God most folks don't really on school kids to interpret the Constitution for them.

Unlike "Safaa Ibrahim"

10 posted on 01/04/2008 10:56:14 AM PST by Redbob
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Speechcrime is defined by whomever is in power.

It is one step away from thoughtcrime, as speechcrime reveals thoughtcrime.

If we let this happen we will be authorizing a repressive state heading to de facto shari’a law

11 posted on 01/04/2008 11:01:05 AM PST by DBrow
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Hey Safaa - shove it in your hijab!


12 posted on 01/04/2008 11:05:30 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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I thought that "Congress shall make no law... abridging (curtailing) the freedom of speech..."

So what is "hate" speech if not speech?

13 posted on 01/04/2008 11:06:25 AM PST by avacado
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To: SmithL

Hate speech is any speech the left and the mohammedans disagree with.


15 posted on 01/04/2008 11:18:54 AM PST by ought-six
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Where does "hate" speech appear in the constitution?

These folks just want to shut up the people who they disagree w/.

This is a very important precendent and given the USSC ruling on CFR I wouldn't bet against the libs.

17 posted on 01/04/2008 11:40:10 AM PST by Pietro
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The Hate Hurts America Coalition?

Am I still allowed to say that I hate the Hate Hurts America Coalition?

Or is that “hate speech”?


18 posted on 01/04/2008 11:49:29 AM PST by mojito
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“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Sorry, buddy, there’s nothing in there about comments which piss you off or make you feel uncomfortable.

And about the establishment of religion... you had better not be planning to force me to be any religion I don’t want to be, either.


19 posted on 01/04/2008 11:55:55 AM PST by redpoll
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20 posted on 01/04/2008 11:56:21 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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Of course, most elementary school students will tell you that hate speech is not to be confused with free speech.

Given that they've been thoroughly propagandized by the likes of the author, perhaps so. It isn't something to be proud of.

In truth there is nothing about "hate speech" that isn't simply "speech I don't like." The author offers no other criteria, only that there are protected classes and everyone else is fair game. Thanks but no thanks.

21 posted on 01/04/2008 11:58:29 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SmithL
In 2004, Savage stated "I think (Muslims) need to be forcibly converted to Christianity ... It's the only thing that can probably turn them into human beings."

If Savage did say this, he probably was quoting Ann Coulter.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 01/04/2008 11:59:26 AM PST by ml/nj
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There is no right not to be offended by someone else’s speech. As for schoolchildren, they should be taught that sticks and stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you. Unless there is direct incitement to violence, the government has no business wasting resources on censorship. And I am not a fan of Michael Savage.


24 posted on 01/04/2008 12:05:59 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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Typical left wing twit rant. I’m glad Savage is standing up to the scum at CAIR. CAIR is to AL-Qaeda, what Sinn Fein was to the IRA..Its mouthpiece. Apparently if you disagree with America its called Free Speech. If you Disagree with Al-Qaeda(or any Libtard whine du jour) it called hate speech. So the bottom line: your free to speak if you agree with whatever cause Libtards champion..To disagree is hate speech.


26 posted on 01/04/2008 12:24:13 PM PST by skully (Happy New Year all..let's make sure 2008 ISN'T the Year of the Moonbat!!!)
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"I left my fart in SanFransisco...."

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 01/04/2008 12:32:09 PM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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Barf Alert?

CAIR, the California Council of Churches, Rabbi Haim Dov Beilak and other Hate Hurts America Coalition coalition members cherish America's tradition of freedom of speech. HHA is practicing its own freedom of speech when it calls people of conscience to stand up against Michael Savage's hate-filled anti-minority tirades.

That's why they sued civilians reporting suspected terrorists in a plane.

33 posted on 01/04/2008 12:41:31 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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