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Clinton aides hint that now things'll get nasty
LA Times ^ | Jan. 4, 2008 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 01/04/2008 9:44:42 AM PST by COUNTrecount

While you were sleeping, the chartered jet of the third-place finisher in the Iowa Democratic caucus winged its way from Des Moines to Manchester, N.H. And it sounds like some decisions were made on that plane that may alter the course of that party's presidential race.

At her concession speech in Des Moines on Thursday night, Hillary Clinton was all gracious and determined and smiling. But hours later on that flight someone named Mark Penn, who happens to be her chief political strategist, ominously told a gaggle of reporters, including The Times' Peter Nicholas, that the campaign's focus needs to shift now onto, you might have guessed, someone named Barack Obama.

The Illinois senator happens to be the first-place finisher in those same caucuses and now Clinton, once the inevitable Democratic nominee, is playing catch-up. Things could get nasty with some pretty sharp media contrasts made in coming days, it would seem. "This has been very much a referendum on her,'' said Penn. "And people will take a harder look at the choice and the kind of president who will be needed in these times.''

Penn hinted that the Clinton campaign may be poised to mount a more aggressive campaign in New Hampshire than in Iowa. "Time and again in the Democratic primaries," he said, ...

... "you've seen people latch onto the new, seemingly fresh candidate only to then take a sobering look at the choice they have when it comes down to the end of it. I think you're going to see that again.''

He claimed that Obama's record is comparatively unexplored he suggested the news media should ask itself about taking a closer look at Obama's history. "Does everyone know everything they need to know about Barack Obama?'' Penn asked. "That's a decision you're going to make

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To: COUNTrecount
"Does everyone know everything they need to know about Barack Obama?''

If I could do that cross-out thingy I would change the name to Hellery.

81 posted on 01/04/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: Kudsman

Yeah those sun roof levers can be killer.


82 posted on 01/04/2008 10:20:07 AM PST by Global2010 ( Happy New Year Ya'll)
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To: Aglooka

“In addition to that there is also the “because it’s time for a woman” crowd.”

If you look (on TV) at the typical woman who supports Hillary!, it’s predictable: overweight, menopausal, grey hair, mad at men in general, probably has a degree in social welfare, etc.

My 80 year old mother supports Hillary (and she’s not overweight LOL). But Mom does believe if Republicans had their way, women would lose the right to vote, could only get jobs as secretaries, blah, blah, blah. Mom bought into the Germaine Greer/Betty Friedan propaganda.

I can’t discuss politics with my mom. :)


83 posted on 01/04/2008 10:20:38 AM PST by RooRoobird20 (Thankfully Convered Catholic)
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To: okie01
Now, that's what I call a not-very-veiled threat. Not only to Obama...but to the media.

That's exactly right. One of the attractions to being a machine politician in New York is the intimate, almost incestuous association with Big Media. I suspect that when Her Majesty was considering which state she would condescend to being elected from, that was a big factor. And, too, it was felt throughout the Clinton administration that media had put him in office ("it's the economy, stupid") and hence owned him, or at least access to him.

Obama is even more a creature of the media than BJ Billy, and Hil doesn't like it. Without a strong hand on the media levers her team becomes merely mortal (like all of the Republicans are and have been for the last few decades). That would be an immense loss of prestige and hence power for the New York machine.

It isn't happening. There are eight years of chits to call in and eight years' worth of bodies buried whose locations are on the Clinton rolodex. Obama is going to have to make a lot of promises to a lot of people in record time to avoid the avalanche. I don't think his team is up to it. Hil's is - that's what they do.

84 posted on 01/04/2008 10:22:29 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: katykelly

The NH primary is this Tuesday January 8th. Doesn’t give them much time to sling mud....


85 posted on 01/04/2008 10:22:36 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: BurbankKarl
All those folks need to be updating their resumes.

That's a message we yelled to Condit staff during our demonstrations.

They ignored the message and were last seen walking down the road, kicking a can, and talking to themselves. :)

86 posted on 01/04/2008 10:23:00 AM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Nomen Klatura

Which commandment did he break?


87 posted on 01/04/2008 10:23:42 AM PST by Diplomat
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To: COUNTrecount
Nasty?

Perhaps B. Hussein better keep an eye out for airborne lamps (nyuk, nyuk, nyuk).

Also this. Considering her (to this untrained eye) paranoid psychosis, Hillary is a big blamer. So, who is she blaming for her resounding LOSS last evening?

(Hint, it's NOT her.)

88 posted on 01/04/2008 10:24:55 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: willgolfforfood
So it seems that !Hillary's! campaign is about to leak the dirt they say that they had on Obama a month ago in Iowa, but chose not to use at that time.

I have a feeling that many of Obama's supporters are not going to care what her people say about him, and are going to be very angry with her for bringing it up

89 posted on 01/04/2008 10:25:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: Miss Didi
Lanny Davis on Fox told the Friends that he couldn’t believe that Obama failed to thank the other Dems! He also said that Mrs. Clinton had 20 to 35 years of experience especially with Iraq.

Lanny Davis, the sycophant's sycophant, a toady who gives toadies a bad name!

And I thought she had 35 years experience as an advocate for children? Not with Iraq....

90 posted on 01/04/2008 10:27:05 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: tsomer
I think Edwards strategy is to let Hill and 'Bam chew each other up, then be the white knight riding in to save the dim's day. Is Edwards that shrewd?

Edwards' best strategy is to stay out of the Clinton/Obama fight. I think he might be smart enough to do that

91 posted on 01/04/2008 10:28:06 AM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: ConservativeMind
From "www.zombietime.com", that is.
92 posted on 01/04/2008 10:28:11 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: COUNTrecount
only to then take a sobering look at the choice they have when it comes down to the end of it.

Seems to me that's what they did to Hillary.

93 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:33 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: Miss Didi

An end to Lanny Davis would be victory enough.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


94 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:35 AM PST by bray (Fred, the Law and Order Candidate)
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To: willgolfforfood

“do you really want a coke fiend educated in a madrassa to be your candidate?” - a Hillary ad coming soon to a TV near you


95 posted on 01/04/2008 10:31:15 AM PST by babble-on
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To: COUNTrecount
The “ex-Clintonistas” {There are no such people - alive!} within the Obama campaign have been planted there, and they will launch their torpedoes to undermine his candidacy on command.
96 posted on 01/04/2008 10:31:43 AM PST by Cedric
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To: quark

This picture defines reply # 3 and # 50. Or those replies define this picture is more accurate.


97 posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:01 AM PST by Picklezz (HUNTER: SOLID - A Conservative's Conservative. He's the man for the job.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I can’t wait to see her come completely unsoldered in front of the cameras.


98 posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:34 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: COUNTrecount

Considering that she’s already floated rumors that he’s a closet Moslem and a dope-dealing crackhead, it’ll be interesting to see what “nasty” looks like.


99 posted on 01/04/2008 10:34:56 AM PST by Hunton Peck (This election keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.)
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To: babble-on

Trouble for Hillary is that it’s HER party that has years of experience of responding to any single slight criticism of a black person with reflexive howls of racism, blah, blah, blah. Obama’s crowd will turn this on HIllary with a vengence and the media will run with it. It happend in Iowa with the drug thing and it will happen again.


100 posted on 01/04/2008 10:37:10 AM PST by joebuck
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