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ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates (Ron Paul in; Duncan Hunter out)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4 January 2008 | David Bauder

Posted on 01/04/2008 9:38:26 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates

NEW YORK—ABC News is eliminating Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter and Democrats Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel from its prime-time presidential debates Saturday night because they did not meet benchmarks for their support.

The Republican debate three days before the New Hampshire primary will include Iowa caucus winner Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. It starts at 7 p.m. EDT.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: abc; abcnews; alankeyes; debate; duncanhunter; elections2008; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebates; gravel; huckabee; hunter; johnmccain; keyes; kucinich; mccain; mikehuckabee; mittromney; nh2008; paul; primary; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; thompson
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To: SW6906
Someone tell me again why Iowa is allowed to determine our Presidential election field? This crap has to end. It is supposed to be one person, one vote in this country. Here in WA state, I have very little to no say whatsoever in who our candidate is. That’s crap.

Iowa has nothing to do with it. The system is set up by the parties. The republican party can change the way candidates are selected however and whenever they want. If you are a Republican and are getting screwed by this system, you are getting screwed by your own party.

41 posted on 01/04/2008 10:21:32 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Hoodlum91

Nor me. While cut and run could not even get 10% with all his so called grass root support in a caucus state ABC wants to make sure the most far left anti-Americans are heard. Cut and run probably could have gotten less than 1% and ABC would want him blabbering away about how it was our fault the terrorists attacked us.


42 posted on 01/04/2008 10:23:53 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: Polybius

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
—Vladimir Lenin


43 posted on 01/04/2008 10:25:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Grrrrr....


44 posted on 01/04/2008 10:29:11 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: PLD

>>>What the other candidates should do is not show up and let ABC do their own debate with their so called news people..if the others had any smarts they would tell ABC to go jump off a bridge..but of course they won’t..I have not watched one of the silly debates because I get sick of all the lies I know these jokers are telling..All except Duncan Hunter that is..I check out the people myself to see what the truth is and how they voted and what they did while in office.The only one I agreed with is Duncan Hunter..So his name will be written in even if it doesn’t show up on the ballot

The other candidates would never call the media out on this. Duncan Hunter being involved in the election raises the ‘bar of integrity’.


45 posted on 01/04/2008 10:30:14 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Prokopton
"If you are a Republican and are getting screwed by this system, you are getting screwed by your own party."

See..that's the thing..they aren't parties any longer with the dynasties becoming intertwined by both sides playing footsies with socialism. Pubs love the Chinese/marxist money and the dems love the Chinese/marixist philosophy and they are helping each other now. The American people don't have a say any longer.

Down with the nasty dynasties.

46 posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:29 AM PST by Earthdweller (The liberal MSM...Buddies of Romney F Kerry and the socialist march to China)
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To: TBP
Indeed. Can't have the media mention there's more than one "African-American" candidate, especially when the other is in the Republican Party.

Even many Freepers have admitted to being totally ignorant of Keyes' running even though he entered the race a mere nine days after Fred Thompson entered.

47 posted on 01/04/2008 10:32:34 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Looks like Keyes and Cox (is he still running?) were excluded as well.


48 posted on 01/04/2008 10:34:42 AM PST by PAR35
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Frankly, when there are 9 or 10 candidates on a stage, debates get really silly. And they aren't really debates anyway when there are only 3 or 4 people.

If each candidate gets only 3-4 minutes of speaking time in an hour (as opposed to the host -- I won't even call them the mod-word -- who gets 20-30 minutes), it isn't worth going to or watching.

I'd rather see a series of debates with 3 or 4 candidates, selected randomly for fairness, if necessary, and have a real debate or at least a real discussion, and fewer sound bites and hand-raising polls.

49 posted on 01/04/2008 10:34:52 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: weegee
But Paul is more of an embarassment to the GOP than Hunter and Hunter poses a challenge to the status quo candidates.

I think they're including Ron Paul in the hopes he will say something outlandish.

50 posted on 01/04/2008 10:34:53 AM PST by scan59 (Let consumers dictate market policies. Government just gets in the way.)
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To: calcowgirl

Maybe they could give Duncan Hunter a full hour to analyze the debate like FoxNews did with Fred Thompson when Fred was still ducking the debates...

D’oh! What am I thinking? That would NEVER happen. ;-)


51 posted on 01/04/2008 10:36:39 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: pissant

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080103/OPINION01/450749263/-1/OPINION01

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The ill-conceived plans by the two networks to limit the pool of candidates is inappropriate on many counts, not the least of which is thrusting the media into what should always be the uncomfortable position of “making” news rather than “covering” news.

As many of you no doubt recall, that’s a lesson we learned quite painfully back in 1980 when The Telegraph tried to arrange a one-on-one Republican debate between George Bush and Ronald Reagan in Nashua, casting aside the other five candidates who were mired in single digits at the time.

Unbeknownst to the newspaper and Bush, Reagan had invited the other candidates to participate in the debate, which prompted protests from Bush and then-Telegraph Editor Jon Breen. When the editor instructed a sound technician to cut the power to Reagan’s microphone, Reagan responded with his now-famous “I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green! (sic).” The rest is history.

With that serving as an appropriate backdrop, we urge ABC and Fox executives to reconsider their positions and open their weekend debates to the full field of candidates.

It is the only fair thing to do.


52 posted on 01/04/2008 10:39:34 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: mysterio
I think the solution is a national primary day or something like it

That would guarantee that only the media-anointed "front runners" or massively self-funded candidates would have a shot.

Smallish-state early primaries/caucuses perform a valuable weeding-out process that still allows the somewhat lesser-known candidates a chance. It doesn't/shouldn't have to be Iowa and New Hampshire every time, but states in the same mold at least.

53 posted on 01/04/2008 10:40:56 AM PST by kevkrom (All those in favor of Thompson, don't raise your hand.)
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To: Revelation 911

Ping


54 posted on 01/04/2008 10:41:44 AM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: weegee

Including Paul is a mistake.

I had hoped ABC would follow the FOX News lead and cut the debate to 5 like they did with the DEms. The Democrats will get better coverage because only 5 share the spotlight and time. Paul doesn’t belong in the Republican Debate anyway since he is more Libertarian than Republican.


55 posted on 01/04/2008 10:42:06 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Or maybe Hannity will invite Hunter on his program in the midst of things
(like he did with the Iowa-no-show Giuliani last night).

Sorry... I fell into your daydreaming mode, LOL.


56 posted on 01/04/2008 10:42:41 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Calpernia

That is what the MSM is afraid of integrity and intelligence and Duncan Hunter has both..


57 posted on 01/04/2008 10:42:49 AM PST by PLD
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To: cripplecreek

Don’t throw the good out for the perfect, Thompson will be just fine! Wouldn’t it be a conservatives dream and a MSM nightmare if Thompson named Hunter as his running Mate? Then in 2016 Hunter would have gained the name recognition he is so desperately lacking now.


58 posted on 01/04/2008 10:43:57 AM PST by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: kevkrom

Then have it over the course of a month and rotate the states each time. Certain states never getting a say in the process isn’t fair.


59 posted on 01/04/2008 10:44:01 AM PST by mysterio
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To: BlazingArizona

Paul’s campaign is for what Paul will do, not what others did before him.

What has he done to secure the Texas border?


60 posted on 01/04/2008 10:45:17 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy in 2008.)
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