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ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates (Ron Paul in; Duncan Hunter out)
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 4 January 2008 | David Bauder

Posted on 01/04/2008 9:38:26 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

ABC cuts 3 from presidential debates

NEW YORK—ABC News is eliminating Republican presidential candidate Duncan Hunter and Democrats Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel from its prime-time presidential debates Saturday night because they did not meet benchmarks for their support.

The Republican debate three days before the New Hampshire primary will include Iowa caucus winner Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney and Ron Paul. It starts at 7 p.m. EDT.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
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To: F15Eagle

>None of them ever gave Duncan Hunter any airtime before. Don’t want a conservative who’ll actually do something about the borders, dont’cha know.<

If big business doesn’t want you on the news, you won’t be there. Same goes for what the CFR wants.

I get a helluva kick out of the ‘patriots’ on FR who support the war but won’t support the few people who want to make America the strong Republic that it once was.

I do hope they enjoy the New World Order and the inception of the ICC which will strip Americans of the Bill of Rights protections.


121 posted on 01/04/2008 1:00:51 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Badeye
The only surprise is they kept Ron Paul in the debate.

Why? He was close to McCain and Thompson and was about 3x that of Guiliani in Iowa. He's got tons of money. He's polling higher than Thompson in NH and is near even with Huckabee there.

122 posted on 01/04/2008 1:02:19 PM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982

‘Why?’

Because he’s ate up with the goofies, for starters.


123 posted on 01/04/2008 1:07:45 PM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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To: pollywog
I wonder how “ sunny a personality” Abraham Lincoln and George Washington had?

Lincoln had a great sense of humor and was a master orator. Personality-wise, Hucklebee probably has more in common with Lincoln than any other Republican (and I say that as a Lincoln admirer who would never vote for Hucklebee).

124 posted on 01/04/2008 1:13:42 PM PST by ravinson
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Same objection as I had when Ron Paul was excluded. The media does not have the right to limit my presidential candidate choices.


126 posted on 01/04/2008 1:17:13 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: calcowgirl
Unbeknownst to the newspaper and Bush, Reagan had invited the other candidates to participate in the debate, which prompted protests from Bush and then-Telegraph Editor Jon Breen. When the editor instructed a sound technician to cut the power to Reagan’s microphone, Reagan responded with his now-famous “I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green! (sic).” The rest is history.

I think Fred could pull off something like that. I doubt anyone else would. An opportunity for leadership?

127 posted on 01/04/2008 1:18:11 PM PST by esarlls3
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To: Badeye

What an intelligent, thoughtful response. Thanks.


128 posted on 01/04/2008 1:33:20 PM PST by rb22982
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To: TKDietz
"Giuliani didn’t even make top five in the list though and he got creamed by Ron Paul so if there aren’t drastic changes for Giuliani it won’t be long before he’ll stop being included in debates."

Not as long as Fox is hosting them.

129 posted on 01/04/2008 1:37:39 PM PST by penowa
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Mike Who?


130 posted on 01/04/2008 1:38:59 PM PST by Berosus (Support our troops, bring them home -- from Bosnia.)
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To: Kevmo

If a quick rise can happen to the liberal pro-life evangelical Huckster, it can happen to the conservative pro-life evangelical Hunter.

Only if Hunter can borrow somebody’s personality. Huckabee may not be as conservative but he is much more personable, likable and is interesting to listen to, even if I don’t agree with much of what he has to say at times.


131 posted on 01/04/2008 1:59:44 PM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: captain anode

Paul is a libertarian in Republican clothing. He does not belong on the stage with the others.

ABC Debate should have been narrowed down to 5 just as the Democrats were. Iowa is only part of the formula - the national polls (not the ones the Paul people vote in multiple times) should also be considered. All things considered, Rudy would have been ahead of Paul.

The FOX debate will be much better than the ABC debate.


132 posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:31 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: rb22982

Iraq and Drugs - those are two major issues to me. I could not possibly vote for someone with Paul’s views on legalizing drugs and his surrender monkey stance in Iraq. And his blame America view points on 9-11 also. Don’t forget that. The guy is crazy.

Paul is also major deceiver when it comes to voting in congress. He proposes spending then he votes against it. Not honest and straight forward.


133 posted on 01/04/2008 2:17:12 PM PST by Martins kid
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To: esarlls3
An opportunity for leadership?

Lots of opportunities. Few leaders. :-(

134 posted on 01/04/2008 2:20:31 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Martins kid

Legalizing drugs would do nothing but save tax payers around 60 billion a year but that’s not an important issue to Paul (it’s not on his website) or to most (l)ibertarians (it is with the LP though). Iraq is a big issue which is why he shouldn’t be CinC. But I wish we had more of him in Congress so I’d be able to keep a lot more of my paycheck.


135 posted on 01/04/2008 2:22:49 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Martins kid

Why, in your opinion, are libertarians not welcome in the Republican Party but anti-abortion, pro illegal immigration and big government spenders are ok (Guiliani, Huckabee, etc)?


136 posted on 01/04/2008 2:24:11 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Martins kid

Post 136 should so PRO abortion (Guiliani) not anti-abortion.


137 posted on 01/04/2008 2:27:01 PM PST by rb22982
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To: Boiling point
Hunter would have gained the name recognition he is so desperately lacking now.

Unfortunately, he'll be 71 if such a scenario happened.

He should have ran for POTUS in 2000. He would have benefitted from the name-recognition and support from conservatives now.

138 posted on 01/04/2008 3:37:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (13-3 Green Bay Packers - The road to the Super Bowl begins NOW)
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To: Publius Valerius
Paul and Giuliani get in because they meet one (or more) of the criteria. Hunter doesn't, so he's out. It's not subjective.

I would not be surprised if the criteria were chosen in some measure so that they would include Paul and not include Hunter, but (1) there's a limit to how many people should be in the debate, and (2) it would seem hard to justify including Giuliani without including Paul, and (3) it would be hard to justify including Hunter and excluding any of the people chosen instead.

139 posted on 01/04/2008 4:57:55 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Kevmo
On FREE REPUBLIC SO MANY FREEPERS are on their game, on their toes and do exceptional jobs deconstructing the liberal mass media, exposing their slanted journalism and lies at every twist and turn.

We have figured them out in amazing detail, and can almost predict their every move, thus thwarting them and causing them to lose power.

We brought down DAN RATHER for Pete's sake! (Hat tip to ol' Buckhead).

And then, all that goes down the toilet when so many vast segments of Free Republic buy, lock, stock and barrel, the liberal MSM's blackout of candidates who would be the biggest danger to them and liberalism--guys like Duncan Hunter. And end up parroting the MSM's own propaganda: "He Cannot Win".

I just don't get it.

Even today, you will find "conservatives" on FR APPLAUDING the fact that unarguably the most solid Conservative--without being a nutcase with questionable baggage--in the race, Duncan Hunter, is excluded from the MSM controlled Saturday night debate in New Hampshire that could have a major impact. What is wrong with this picture, folks.

This is a very sorry state of affairs if you ask me.

140 posted on 01/04/2008 4:59:43 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Your FR Pledge: Bookmark It Today! "I Won't Support Mitt/Rudy/McCain/Huckster in General Election")
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