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RON PAUL to DFU on Iowa radio - he would not stop ship with nuclear missiles from N. Korea to Iran
WHO RADIO in Des Moines ^ | 1-3-08 | dfu

Posted on 01/03/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by doug from upland

For those who have doubts that Ron Paul would be an acceptable commander in chief, your doubts would have been absolutely confirmed if you listened to him this morning on WHO 1040 talk radio in Des Moines, Iowa.

He came on Jan Mickelson's show at about 8:50am, Pacific Time. I was the second caller.

After complimenting him on his commitment to the Constitution, I asked a question about foreign policy. If any of you can pull the podcast, you can hear the conversation.

The question went something like this: Dr. Paul, if a shipment of nuclear tipped missiles was heading from North Korea to Iran, knowing the position of Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, would you stop that ship or sink it?

His answer was stunning. He very quickly answwered, "No, why would we do that?" After that question back to me, he commented that there was almost zero chance of that happening. He said that if he knew they planned to use them against us, he would take action. But they know they would be obliterated.

I wanted to challenge him further over Iran's stated goal of destroying Israel, but I was apparently cut off by the host and couldn't do it.

There you go, folks. Dr. Paul is an unthinkable commander in chief.


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KEYWORDS: 911truther; ia2008; iowa; libertarians; morethorazineplease; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile
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To: doug from upland

I agree with that, and just said in another post that maybe we should amend the constitution to reflect our new reality — because in some ways Paul’s argument on the constitution seems quite correct, and I justify ignoring it under the sound principle that the constitution is not a death wish.


81 posted on 01/03/2008 10:24:36 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: hellbender

If he would have allowed the missiles in Cuba, what would he have done to stop a first strike? Based on what he has said, it seems that he would contend that Cuba is sovereign and the Constitution would have not allowed Kennedy to do what he did. If we let Cuba alone (substitute, if we left the Middle East alone) Cuba would have no desire to attack us, so the presence of missile should not be a problem.


82 posted on 01/03/2008 10:25:11 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Greg F

The interviewer should then have asked Paul if he would at least approve letters of marque so a wooden square-rigged privateer could stop the North Korean ship.


83 posted on 01/03/2008 10:25:23 AM PST by hellbender
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To: mnehrling
ahhh, but we signed the NNT, and guess where North Korea got the technology behind their nukes, Clinton

Imagine if Great Britain had blown up our ships when they delivered the Clinton cargo to North Korea.

84 posted on 01/03/2008 10:25:32 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
but we aren’t North Korea so the so called moral equivalence doesn’t play here, we are allies with Great Britain, who are also signers of the NATO Treaty, thus it would be a breach in that treaty to fire on us.
85 posted on 01/03/2008 10:29:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Good points. Technology and suicidal maniacs will continue to force change. Responsible people also need to help people understand our constitution applies to US citizens.


86 posted on 01/03/2008 10:29:54 AM PST by tpanther
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To: lormand

In your case, you probably should.


87 posted on 01/03/2008 10:30:40 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: DugwayDuke

No, but I also don’t believe we get to blow up ships and kill people from other nations because they are not our moral equivalent.

Or I should say that I believe it’s a rational argument to have about whether we have the right to blow up ships and kill people from other nations simply because they are not our moral equivalent — since the argument is Ron Paul’s, not mine, and I wouldn’t object to boarding the ship and confiscating the cargo, at least in my 5-second consideration of the issue.


88 posted on 01/03/2008 10:32:15 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Enjoy Paul's victory today in Iowa.

ROFL!

Dream on, Alice. You'll get to Wonderland some day.

89 posted on 01/03/2008 10:33:06 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: doug from upland
Imagine, in one fell swoop Ron Paul has solved the problem of Iran developing nuclear weapons, let them buy them from North Korea!

Heck, we could sell them nukes.

Of course that would never happen, there were no North Korean nuclear components in Syria either, Israel was simply bombing for the fun of it.

90 posted on 01/03/2008 10:33:53 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: mnehrling

OK, I just chose a country for effect, what if Russia or China had blown up our ship to “prevent the nuclear proliferation to a non-signatory”?

I think you understood my point. It’s not so much about moral equivalence as it is when do you draw the line between things you hate but have to permit, and things you get to stop from happening?


91 posted on 01/03/2008 10:34:18 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Enjoy Paul's victory today in Iowa.

Once again, no reply to the actual question/issue at hand. You simply attempt to deflect. Ron Paul's answer shows that he is clearly unqualified.

Will you still be contributing to Ron Paul's campaign after the Iowa results are released? Seeing how he is polling so well and all...

92 posted on 01/03/2008 10:34:31 AM PST by been_lurking
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Imanutjob has said publicly on the record a minimum of five occasions he will end the existence of Israel, wipe it off the map, whatever phrase you want to call it. How would he does this? Should we take him at his word? If he acquires a nuclear weapon, ending Israel is a much easier task for him. Are you prepared to take that chance? What if he did acquire a nuke if Paul were President and he used it and destroyed Israel, what would you say then?
93 posted on 01/03/2008 10:34:43 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul called Reagan a Dramatic Failure and thinks he is smarter than Abe Lincoln.)
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To: davidosborne; airborne; Antoninus; GulfBreeze; processing please hold; RasterMaster; ...

Freeper Doug from Upland spoke to Ron Paul today on the radio. Come read this.


94 posted on 01/03/2008 10:35:39 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: mnehrling
So you are saying Bush is the standard we should strive to achieve to?

He flunks that standard big time too.

95 posted on 01/03/2008 10:36:00 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: doug from upland

bump DFU!


96 posted on 01/03/2008 10:36:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
C’mon Doug. Why didn’t we go after the Iranians who were crossing into Iraq?

I just *love* this question coming from a Ron Paul supporter!

If you support Ron Paul then you know that Ron Paul would never have had troops in Iraq in order to confront the Iranians, yet you criticize Bush for not confronting the Iranians!

You are exposed as a hypocrite.

97 posted on 01/03/2008 10:36:16 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: doug from upland

If these guys know they will be obliterated; why are they still trying?


98 posted on 01/03/2008 10:37:39 AM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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To: doug from upland
Ron Paul is Dennis Kuchinich with a better hair cut.
99 posted on 01/03/2008 10:38:28 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Enjoy Paul's victory today in Iowa.

Step away from the crack pipe.

100 posted on 01/03/2008 10:40:07 AM PST by subterfuge (HILLARY IS: She who must NOT be Dismayed)
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