Kosovo train-wreck warnings

Washington Times ^ | January 2, 2008 | James Lyons

[Bokababe]

It is expected that early on in 2008, probably February, the United Nations-supervised Albanian Muslim Administration of the Serbian province of Kosovo will make a unilateral declaration of independence (UDI).

The United States has said it is prepared to recognize Kosovo, despite the objections of the Serbian government and more importantly, despite the fact that Russia, a key ally of Serbia, does not want Kosovo independence.

While unclear, it is likely a number of European countries starting with the United Kingdom, France and Germany will follow Washington's lead. Several other countries, notably Spain, Cyprus, Romania, Slovakia and Greece say they will not recognize Kosovo's UDI. The UDI would be undertaken without approval from the U.N. Security Council because of the vigorous objection of Russia and China, who claim no sovereign state's territory can be detached without its consent. Further, as pointed out by George Friedman in his Stratfor article, there was an absolute consensus that post-World War II borders of Europe were sacrosanct. Therefore, no borders would shift.....

[SQUID]

It is sick to think how the Western and more developed Nations prefer to legitimize radical Islam in one corner of the globe and then condemn it in another. They want us to believe that they are isolated cases of radicalism by giving them different names. They fail to note that there is only ONE Kuran and if they want to eliminate radical Muslims they will need to change the book or commit genocide.

It is this hypocrisy that has been demonstrated by Clinton and now Bush that has threatened the very foundation of America herself. These administrations are NOT representative of America’s foreign interests. If so show me how legally one can recognize another state without regard for international laws and treaties?

Some say this is simply a continuation of the cold war where Russia must be crushed and radical right wing elements are being used to do it. The Russian sphere of influence must be diminished and the Balkans are a part of that sphere along with the Baltic states.

BUT, it was England who put Communism into the Balkans in the first place by legitimizing Tito. So, the Serbs were punished by Communism under the communist purges and now being punished for being under Communism by Islamic purges spearheaded by Germany.

Crazy? Then why does Medved, Bush, Rush, and others use the term Islamofascism? Because Islam was a radical Nazi element and still is today. It espouses radical Fascistic principles that went hand in hand with the radical Nazi principles.

But what these people don’t know is that this kind of Islam doesn’t stop in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Balkans will not be enough. Look at Detroit and some places in Philadelphia.

The West is interested in getting rid of Russia and her sphere of influence while the Muslims see this as an opportunity for expansion.

[kronos77]

The wrriter of the article is admiral (ret.) James “Ace” Lyons, former commander of US pacific fleet.

[JMS]

Clearly you know little of the US armed forces and their motivation to fight what was a clear and present danger in Iraq as opposed getting involved with the destruction of a fellow European country in violation of the Helsinki accords. The European forces were ostensibly brought in as peace keepers, not as a fighting force and have not even been effective in keeping Serbian churches from being destroyed. If they are not motivated to keep the peace, there is little reason to believe they would be motivated to go into combat.

[montyspython]

Excellent post.

[RightWhale]

Whatever it takes to keep the pipeline routes open.

[austrian]

Clearly you know little of the US armed forces and their motivation to fight what was a clear and present danger in Iraq as opposed getting involved with the destruction of a fellow European country in violation of the Helsinki accords. The European forces were ostensibly brought in as peace keepers, not as a fighting force and have not even been effective in keeping Serbian churches from being destroyed. If they are not motivated to keep the peace, there is little reason to believe they would be motivated to go into combat.

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it´s true that the troops (including US) now fullfill peacekeeping operations in kosovo. but this does not mean that they would not be able to fight if needed. (btw. there will be no war over kosovo all different sides statet this allready). why do you say that they are not motivated to bring peace? ok in a perfect world our millitary could prevent every thing (including protecting this serbian churches for example. but this wolrd is far away from perfect.) so you say because only they are not able to prevent everything that they are not motivated? are your troops not motivated too in afghanistan or iraq for example? because it looks like they are not able to prevent all violence there. it will never be possible to stop everything but this does not mean that the troops are not motivated.

[JMS]

No K-Force troops have done anything to prevent Albanian violence against the Serbs and Serbian cultural institutions so even in an imperfect world there has been no effort made to prevent violence. Your analogies to Iraq and Afghanistan do no stand up as the vast majority of areas in those countries are pacified precisely because of the motivated actions of the US and our allies, many of whom are European. No one is speaking about preventing all violence but at least an effort should be made. As such, there is no reason to believe an effort would be made to fight against a determined foe in Kosovo.

[BobS]

"Or perhaps you'd rather we shed American lives to further the cause of Islamists' expansion into Europe? "

Not at all. It's time to tell them to straighten up in a way they understand. The Russians scare the hell out of them and are Serbia's allies. We've been there far too long already.

We told the Iraqis we can't stay years ago. After some recent changes, they said they won't need us after another year already. They're picking up the pieces on their own.

[BobS]

"there are about 19.000 european soldiers in kosovo and 2 battle groups on stand by."

That's another problem. After a decade or so, people look at militaries as a welfare check. For people that looted and burned down Orthodox old churches and communities?

Encouraging that behavior and rewarding it is not the way to go. That's the mayhem that started everything. That stupid Clinton should have stayed out until all big countries decided it's getting out of hand.

[Banat]

The strength of the U.S. is not in the 1,600 troops it has on the ground (troops that prefer to hang out with the Serbian Army in the DMZ, btw); it's in the capability and willingness to use its power. That's something NONE of the European countries -- with the exception of Britain -- possess.

Now, for some insane reason, the U.S. has chosen to put this power behind a bunch of drug-running, nun-raping, church-burning, Jihad heathens.

Austria has just announced that it will support the independence of Kosovo. Is Austria ready to send its troops to enforce this grand plan? Didn't think so.

[F-117A]

If the Albanians are permitted to takeover Kosovo there next move will be in Macedonia. If the Albanians are permitted to takeover in Macedonia there next move will be in Montenegro. If the Albanians are permitted to takeover im Montenegro there next move will be in Greece.

[austrian]

Austria has just announced that it will support the independence of Kosovo. Is Austria ready to send its troops to enforce this grand plan? Didn’t think so.

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austria has 600 soldiers in Kosovo since the year 1999.and has stated that it´s ready to provide 1200 troops if needed.
so i guess yes austria is ready to enforce this plan. don´t ask me why but yes it looks like we are ready.
and because you stated that european troops are not willing to use it´s power.
tell this to this 2 guys in kosovo. (oh wait you can´t because they are dead).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=687Eusnrxfk

(warning violent graphic).