Posted on 01/01/2008 11:02:08 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
If there was ever any question as to how diverse the Republican Party is, this campaign season has answered it. The reason there are so many viable candidates in the Republican presidential primary this year is because each candidate hails from a different part of the Republican base. That Republican diversity earns a special New Year’s Look.
Rudy Giuliani hails from the liberal wing of the Republican Party. The Republican liberals are regionally based in the Northeast. They think that women should have the right to choose abortion, support destructive embryonic stem cell research, and generally support homosexual rights. They are represented inside the beltway by the Republican Main Street Coalition.
Giuliani also hails from the rule of law wing of the Party. These are the conservatives who oppose the “illegal” in illegal immigration. They often fall in with Christian conservatives (who equally value authority) and are attracted to Giuliani who was a former federal prosecutor and is widely credited with cleaning up New York City.
Mitt Romney comes from the business end of the Republican Party. Unlike their liberal counterparts; these conservatives do not care much for social issues. Money, free trade economics, money, and creative destruction are the foundation of their beliefs and a candidate's business acumen is preferable to ideology. They are regionally based along the Wall Street-DC axis and Club for Growth is their best beltway representative.
Fred Thompson comes from the intellectual and social conservative wing of the Party. These conservatives value logic and reason as the prime driving force behind social issues, and they tend to prefer a more secular approach to politics. National Right to Life, their resident beltway representative, endorsed Thompson late last year. They are regionally based in the South, Midwest, and West, and are often mistaken for (and dominated by) Christian conservatives who tend to have a louder voice.
Mike Huckabee hails from the Christian conservative wing of the Party. Similar to their social conservative brothers; abortion and gay marriage top their list of concerns. However, unlike social conservatives, they favor of a Biblical defense of their views. They are based in the churches of the South and Middle America, and tend to hold a negative view of Washington, DC where they feel they will always be perennial outsiders.
John McCain comes from the neoconservative wing of the Party. These are the war hawks that pushed for the invasion of Iraq and steadfastly support the President. Some of these same people could not stand the name McCain only eight years ago. They are based squarely inside the beltway at conservative think tanks such as Project for the New American Century and the American Enterprise Institute.
Ron Paul hails from the Constitutional and libertarian wings of the Party. This is the segment of the Party who values individual liberty as supreme and sees big government as encroaching upon that liberty. They favor states’ rights and local control and want to dismantle the bureaucratic morass that the federal government has become.
Paul also hails from the anti-war, isolationist wing of the party and was one of the original Republicans to vote against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. His stances and confrontational personality have endeared him to an anti-establishment crowd who feel that he is one of them. Unfortunately for Paul, much of that crowd does not vote (Republican).
Keep in mind that these are the segments of the Republican tent that each candidate comes from, and it does not necessarily rule them out from garnering the support of other parts of the base. After all, one of the main functions of a campaign organization is coalition building. But one thing is certain, whoever ends up being the nominee will have a profound impact on the direction and character of the Republican Party for years to come.
On Gun Control and Illegal Immigration he hits a home run.
***On immigration, Hunter’s criticism of Thompson over this issue is well aimed. We need someone in the white house who isn’t a johnny-come-lately on this issue.
Road to Des Moines Conversions on Immigration (Hunter Press release)
News Which Cannot Lose ^ | 10/25/07 | Duncan Hunter/staff
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1916889/posts
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd
“New look?”
I hope the Gelding Old Party gets a testicles & spine implant before next year!
Happy New Year!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
Posting links to obsecure polls, ridiculous odds,
***Obscure,huh?
Rasmussen has started using Intrade results.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1945852/posts
They seem to openly admit that the data for Iowa between Christmas and New Year’s is unreliable: “Rasmussen Reports has not conducted polling in Iowa between Christmas and New Years. We have doubts about the ability to obtain reliable results during that time frame.”
I’m a conservative supporting a conservative candidate on a conservative website. If you have a problem with that, you might want to re-think your decision to start posting here. This is NOT a GOP website.
From the front page of Free Republic:
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FR has posting guidelines also and I notice you have failed to post any of them..... We all like to participate in our own way which to some is annoying and to others enjoyment. I’m just thankful that in about 34 days or so this crap shoot will be over and we can get on towards the general and deal with the 3rd party types that will arise.
Obama: Gore, Kerry Alienated “Half the Country”
http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/politics/blog/2007/12/obama_gore_kerry_alienated_hal.html
Posted on 01/01/2008 2:38:15 PM EST by zendari
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946838/posts
Should Women Submit?
Huckabee Says Yes Candidate: Take Nation ‘Back For Christ’
WFSB.com Hartford | December 31, 2007 | AP
Posted on 12/31/2007 12:55:48 PM EST by LurkedLongEnough
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946391/posts
Bad Blood at Huckabee and Paul
Time
Posted on 01/01/2008 1:17:34 PM EST by mnehrling
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946803/posts
Mitt’s flips: Why they matter
Manchester Union Leader | 12/31/2007
Posted on 01/01/2008 11:46:42 AM EST by Ol’ Sparky
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946775/posts
Latter-Day Skeptics
http://www.tnr.com/ | November 20, 2007 | by Josh Patashnik
Posted on 01/01/2008 6:46:03 AM EST by Maelstorm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1946691/posts
Guns don’t kill presidents, Democrats do.
Modern Conservative | Christopher Cook
Posted on 01/01/2008 1:13:15 PM EST by connell
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The difference is, I’m not spamming every thread in sight, and like someone else said, tilting at a windmill for a 1% candidate.
***We had the same thing when the tootyfruityrudybots objected to my approach. They claimed to be “conservative” and were supporting a “conservative” candidate, but when confronted with the definition of conservative by JimRob, they scattered like cockroaches on the bugzapper thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts
The only folks so far who have expressed dismay at what I post are the ones who disagree with it; same thing happened with tootyfruityrudybots months ago.
34 days
***Why 34 days? I think the main battleground will be South Carolina — what cutoff point are you looking at?
Feb 5, Super Tuesday.
New York paraState is like pakistan lite... a failed state: corrupt and tribal.
And the Republicans have already nominated Rudy Giuliani...a corrupt and failed politician if i ever saw one. He is directly responsible for a viable Hillary.
Funny thing they keep asking for money.
I see you've gone beyond merely beating a dead horse with your spam...you've broken the legs off for drumsticks and using its head for a cymbal....
I do find your intrade posts very annoying, but I have not complained about them because you always format the same. Therefore I can skim over them without reading them. Thank you for that much.
CNN had Hunter at less than 0.5 of 1 percant. I’m not big on numbers but that sounds miniscule. He has a lot to overcome, so consider me doubtful.
That’s Rudybots for you, however, they don’t have a conservative candidate...obviously. Those of us backing Fred, do.
I will repost to you on Friday the post I wrote to you a few weeks ago when you were “following” the polls as if the polls were a commodity exchange.
You never posted back to me to argue what I had said. Are you afraid of little ol’ me and my knowledge of the markets?
I see, so you’re more of an optimist than I am. Thanks.
At any point in time between Christmas and January 3rd, maybe 2-3000 new freepers will log on and try to decide between the best conservative candidates. My point of view is unique when I point out that the smart money is on Duncan Hunter, because a guy can put money where his mouth is on this candidate and get 40X return on his “investment” within a few days. It’s probably the first time in history that this has been true, leaving aside bribery.
So it’s not a dead horse.
You’re welcome. That’s the aim. The new freepers will find them interesting, the annoyed ones will hopefully skip over my signatures. In 34 days, it will all be over.
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd
That’s Rudybots for you, however, they don’t have a conservative candidate...obviously. Those of us backing Fred, do.
***And that’s why I’ve been staying away from so many pro-Fred threads, except for immigration, right-to-life, and a scattering of others. This is an all-play/all-skate thread. Why is it that you can’t handle the criticism of your candidate even on an all-play thread? If you’re so certain about him,feel free to put money down on Fred for Iowa, where he’s a bargain at 0.10. This morning, if I wanted to put down money for Hunter to win Iowa (which I don’t believe he’ll do), it would cost me 40X as much.
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Fred Thompson to Win 0.1
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Field (any other individual) to Win M 4.7 5.9 4.8 1384 +1.0
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