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Republican Blood Feud
National Review ^ | December 31, 2007 | David Freddoso

Posted on 01/01/2008 9:01:14 AM PST by RKB-AFG

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To: Clemenza

Watching Giuliani navigate the political process is like watching a horror film festival.....he’s got more sequels than Bela Lugosi.

He’s been outed for porking his mistress on the taxpayers’ dime then hiding the theft of servces in obscure city agencies.

His driver, bodyguard and Police Commissioner and former business paerner (in that order) is an admitted felon and is under federal charges of tax evasion and lying to the WH.

Giuliani’s secrecy about his multiple global businesses and his clients also served to sink his candidacy.

But Giuliani is the lapdog of the Endless War Hopefuls-—the neopukes got trillion dollar US war budgets dancing in their fool heads....you’d think the nitwits would be happy with the trillions they forced taxpayers to sink into Iraq.

No matter how many stakes are driven into Rooty’s presidential aspirations, the Rudester comes back from the dead, climbs out of his coffin with the same evil smirk, to wreak havoc on our political process again and again.

Rooty’s got the resilience of Count Dracula and the resume of a calculating conman......not exactly star material for the White House.


61 posted on 01/01/2008 10:48:31 AM PST by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: alicewonders
I think the ranks of most of the people that attend these huge mega-churches are made up of people like that.

that's a rather snobbish generalization and quite different from what I have observed at least amongst the Pentecost and Fundamentalists

62 posted on 01/01/2008 10:48:38 AM PST by wardaddy (Huckabee is dancing on Thompson's card)
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To: Hawthorn
He actually changed the "I must come in 3rd" to "I must come in 2nd in Iowa". He said this two days ago. So Fred either has internal polls that say this is a possibility, or he is trying to prepare his followers to the fact that he is dropping out.

I have no way of knowing which scenario will play out, but I don't think you can say "I must come in 2nd" and then turn around less than a week later and say, "Oh, I was wrong, sorry".

63 posted on 01/01/2008 10:48:54 AM PST by codercpc
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To: Fishrrman

It has reached the point that I’m getting excited about 2012...when we win the WH back and take Congress as well!

‘Cuz right now, I’m unenthused about most, and will not vote for Huckabee or McCain. It really looks to me like at least 1/3 of the base is likely to sit out the election - unless Fred really picks up some steam!


64 posted on 01/01/2008 10:56:23 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Huckabee - the Republican John Edwards)
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To: RKB-AFG
A Huck-Rudy showdown would be a primary fight between two candidates with almost nothing in common

Yes it would but I see this as a highly unlikely scenario. Both of these candidates have had relative volatility in their polling. One will be 'up' and the other 'out' by super Tuesday. Or they may both be 'out.' What won't happen is both of them staying 'up'.

65 posted on 01/01/2008 10:57:21 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: AZObserver
I know the name “McCain” has been poison of late, but his recent conversion on taxes and immigration is, I believe, at least as sincere as Romney’s.

His conversion would end the moment he had the nomination won. I think we could hold MItt's feet to the fire, but McCain wouldn't care - he considers us all to be contemptible racist science-denying greedy slobs.

66 posted on 01/01/2008 10:58:41 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Huckabee - the Republican John Edwards)
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To: AmericaUnited
You are supposed to be wise and have discernment.

Discernment has been in very short supply lately.

67 posted on 01/01/2008 10:59:43 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RKB-AFG
This is good commentary. But the reality of this scenario playing out isn’t likely. For starters, after all these self-interested politicians that still remain in the race evaluate the landscape after the first few primaries, some are going to drop out and endorse others...in spite of their self-interests, they’ll drop/endorse for the good of the party. Huckabee will not receive any endorsements from the others and the only votes Huckabee will pick up is the rare voters that have Huckabee in mind as their alterative guy.
68 posted on 01/01/2008 11:01:45 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: indylindy
The Fred campaign may be more wise than we have given them credit for..

Yep. Dat Br'er Rabbit, he lay low.

69 posted on 01/01/2008 11:02:53 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ModelBreaker

The good news, if you can call it that, is that a Clinton presidency will guarantee both houses to the Pubbies by ‘10 and a good 12 years of Pubbie presidents from ‘12 on.

But I think it won’t come to that. I’d like to see Fred in the ‘final two’, but I think either Mitt or McCain is likely to be an alternative ahead of Rudy.


70 posted on 01/01/2008 11:03:55 AM PST by 9YearLurker (Fred just keeps looking better and better)
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To: codercpc

“He actually changed the “I must come in 3rd” to “I must come in 2nd in Iowa”. He said this two days ago. So Fred either has internal polls that say this is a possibility, or he is trying to prepare his followers to the fact that he is dropping out.”

I think he would have to place at least 2nd in Iowa just to hope to remain alive till SC. Isn’t he way down in both MI & NH. I don’t remember the latest polls from SC, but didn’t he also fall off there a little bit as well. IMO he has to be running 2nd...or maybe 3rd if he were real close going into Super Tuesday. I’m not saying it can’t be done, but it does in fact look daunting.


71 posted on 01/01/2008 11:06:55 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Russ
"It's gone (The Reagan coalition)said Ed Rollins."

It's only gone because there is no credible leader to take the helm. All the parts are still there and still valid. Too bad Hunter didn't try for the Senate years ago instead of languishing in backbench obscurity his whole career. He has the pieces/parts but neither the credibility nor charisma.

72 posted on 01/01/2008 11:07:31 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RKB-AFG

You think a Rudy-Huck battle complicates things? Consider a Huck-Romney battle... with Rudy taking 200+ delegates.


73 posted on 01/01/2008 11:07:40 AM PST by dangus
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To: Bob J

“Huckabee is not my preferred candidate but if he gets the nod I will support him in the general election.”

And what if Rudy gets the nod? Will you also vote for him?


74 posted on 01/01/2008 11:08:19 AM PST by upsdriver (Duncan Hunter: For those who demand the very best!!)
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To: Old Sarge

It mentioned only Huck and Rudy. If it was an article about McCain vs. Romney, what would you say?


75 posted on 01/01/2008 11:09:26 AM PST by dangus
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To: Old Sarge

(PS: National Review may be lots of things, but biased fans of Huck and Rudy, it is NOT!)


76 posted on 01/01/2008 11:09:54 AM PST by dangus
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To: Bob J
Bob J ...please...if you have to ask why, I am worried.

My folks are Born Again Christians, but even they no longer drink Huck aide. They have seen through him.

He would lose because he has tried to USE religion to get the nomination.

He has hurt the Christian right more than he has spoken for them.

America is about freedom of religion, if the religion of the candidate is a plus for conservatism and the freedom of all US citizens it is a plus.

The idea is to promote that freedom without pushing any one religion, if the POTUS happens to be Christian, that is great, but it should not have an effect on being POTUS.

He could be Jewish, Baptist or whatever, as long as he promotes and protects the rights of all US citizens to practice their faith while protecting the Constitution.

Huck has used faith to get in the door, he is insincere and has a very liberal background except for abortion.

He is personable, but would literally be creamed in a general election. The Dems will obliterate him by using the baloney he is peddling in the primaries to make it look like he will impose his religion on the masses. Formula for GOP disaster.

77 posted on 01/01/2008 11:11:37 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: nwrep
Oh really? Then why is he polling so low

I think people expected far more charisma from Fred, and not this low-key approach. I know I did. Plus, he gets short shrift from the media coverage. A "beat expectations" showing in Iowa would help alleviate the situation a lot.

78 posted on 01/01/2008 11:13:24 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Its “I am ready for Fred and Duncan time”!

I need something other than what we have been pelted with daily.

Most of us are sick of most of these people and then we are supposed to to go out and vote for them.

I vote most of them “OFF” my island. Then....I want to get on with life.

You know, many people probably would go along with that!


79 posted on 01/01/2008 11:21:50 AM PST by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: upsdriver

As I said, I will support and vote for whomever wins the nomination.


80 posted on 01/01/2008 11:25:16 AM PST by Bob J
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