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Penalties for not obtaining health care in 2008 [Happy New Year from ROMNEYCARE]
Boston Herald ^ | December.31, 2008 | AP

Posted on 12/31/2007 3:40:22 PM PST by Reagan Man

Massachusetts residents who remain uninsured in 2008 will begin facing monthly fines based on their age and income, according to new regulations unveiled by the Department of Revenue on Monday.

Here are how much different people may have to pay:

— The highest fines are leveled at those earning three times the annual federal poverty level, or $30,636 for an individual. Individuals aged 27 or older who are over that income threshold will pay the top fine of $76 a month, or $912 a year.

— Married couples earning more than $41,076 would each have to pay the top fine for a combined penalty of $1,824 if they are both uninsured for the entire year.

— Those aged 18-26 earning more than $30,636 will pay $56 a month or $672 a year.

— Individuals earning between $20,425 and $25,536 face a $420 fine for the year. Those earning between $15,325 and $20,424 face a $210 fine.

— There are no fines for individuals earning less than $15,325.


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To: Domandred
Romney’s team innovated the consumer-centered approach which is the key to being able to have competition in the marketplace.

• The consumer-centered approach lets people direct how health care is funded

• With consumers making the purchasing decisions, as opposed to Government, we get better results at better prices

• It’s a similar concept to school vouchers. If parents could direct the funding of education, efficient schools would thrive, while inefficient ones would have to improve or go under.

• Romney did not propose a health insurance mandate. What he proposed was that those who still insisted on going without coverage in a reformed system demonstrate proof of their willingness and ability to pay their own bills by posting a bond or establishing an escrow account.

• Current programs have no transparency and prop up inefficient programs. Today the cost to America’s citizens is over $40 billion annually.

• Our current system relies on publicly funded subsidies for its survival and is allowed to overcharge private patients, regardless of the cost structures or the quality of care provided.

• Our current system uses emergency room care to treat the uninsured instead of lower-cost, better alternatives such as preventative care.

• Massachusetts citizens have 42 plans to choose from instead of the 1 plan 80 percent of Americans have through their employers.

• Pre-reform, the lowest premium for a typical uninsured 37-year-old in Boston was $335 per month with a $5,000 annual deductible. Now, the same individual can get health coverage for $184 per month ($118 pre-tax) with a $2,000 deductible. Most can get a health plan worth twice the value at half the price.

• The number of uninsured in Massachusetts has been reduced by nearly half.

21 posted on 12/31/2007 4:02:11 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (www.MittReport.com)
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To: Mojave
Romney did not propose a health insurance mandate. What he proposed was that those who still insisted on going without coverage in a reformed system demonstrate proof of their willingness and ability to pay their own bills by posting a bond or establishing an escrow account.

It's about ending the free ride on taxpayers' dollars. It's about personal responsibility and free markets. Both, very conservative principles.

22 posted on 12/31/2007 4:03:52 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (www.MittReport.com)
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To: Reaganesque
On “woman’s right to chose:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_w9pquznG4

On gun control:
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=5pcDA9sZES0
23 posted on 12/31/2007 4:04:53 PM PST by Hiddigeigei (Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
WILLARD ROMNEY


24 posted on 12/31/2007 4:05:30 PM PST by Leisler
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Romney did not propose a health insurance mandate.

"Mitt Romney, an architect of Massachusetts’ universal health coverage plan, is unveiling his proposal for overhauling the nation’s health care system, calling for a state-by-state approach that he says will help millions of uninsured in this country gain access to affordable medical coverage."

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/24/us/politics/24romney.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin

25 posted on 12/31/2007 4:06:07 PM PST by Mojave
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Wrong. Romney proposes it state by state.

“Mitt Romney, an architect of Massachusetts’ universal health coverage plan, is unveiling his proposal for overhauling the nation’s health care system, calling for a state-by-state approach that he says will help millions of uninsured in this country gain access to affordable medical coverage.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/24/us/politics/24romney.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin


26 posted on 12/31/2007 4:07:52 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Reaganesque

RomneyCare is nationalized health care insurance and the first step towards socialized medicine. It’s mandated, subsidized and controlled by the government. Forcing people to purchase a service against their will is called tyranny. Subsidizing the premiums for those who can’t afford it is called socialism.


27 posted on 12/31/2007 4:08:10 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Mojave
You will like Hillary's so much better. Who, other than Romney, in your Fantasyland, has the money, poll numbers and demonstrated campaign organzation to stop her? LOL.

Romney on Hillarycare

"Sen. Clinton has a very different view about the changes we need to make. Her plan has several weaknesses and should be distinguished from the reforms I led in Massachusetts and the reform plan I have proposed. So let's take a closer look at what her new proposal would really do:

"Raise taxes. The new plan is slated to cost $110 billion a year. And to pay for the new entitlement – a tax hike. That in turn will slow down the economy and make the cost of her system grow even higher. By contrast, both the reforms I led in Massachusetts and the federalist reform plan I recently proposed do not raise taxes or increase spending.

... "Expand government insurance. People who don't obtain insurance through their employer are invited to buy a government-run, Medicare-like plan or enroll in the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP). And so, more Americans will end up in government-run insurance. It's the gentle slope to a single payer, socialized medicine model. My plan in Massachusetts instead allowed the uninsured to choose a private insurance product from one of the many private insurance companies.

"Impose a national model on everyone. Sen. Clinton fundamentally distrusts state governments. But the states are closer to the people, and more responsive to them. They are also the laboratories of democracy – the best ideas can come from 50 states each doing their best work. The senator's plan is a one-size-fits-all approach. It ignores significant differences between people and the needs of the 50 different states. Federalism is the right approach. The national reforms I have proposed give states financial flexibility to craft their own program to cover the uninsured, a program tailored to the specific needs of their citizens.....

28 posted on 12/31/2007 4:09:19 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (www.MittReport.com)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

When people are FINED because they don’t participate that is MANDATED health care. I don’t care how the Romney camp spins it.

Social Security and Taxes are “voluntary” by law but good luck if you don’t “voluntarily” participate in them.


29 posted on 12/31/2007 4:09:20 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
"demonstrate proof of their willingness and ability.... very conservative principles."

I am not aware, ever, of any conservative for any reason ever supporting private citizens prove themselves to the government. It is repugnant. Nazi(ish).

30 posted on 12/31/2007 4:09:56 PM PST by Leisler
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To: redgirlinabluestate
You will like Hillary's so much better.

Ah, the big lie technique.

Willard and Hillary and you want to impose socialized medicine on the country, not I.

31 posted on 12/31/2007 4:11:24 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Reagan Man
The Soviets called it ‘market socialism’. Where the sheeple would choose amongst products and services ‘approved’ by an elect, an elite, their ‘betters’.
32 posted on 12/31/2007 4:12:32 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Mojave

It’s either, get on your knees and be saved by Saint Willard, or the Devil.

Either or. No choice.


33 posted on 12/31/2007 4:13:58 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Leisler
"Governor Romney did not propose a health insurance mandate. What he proposed was that those who still insisted on going without cover­age in a reformed system demonstrate proof of their willingness and ability to pay their own bills by posting a bond or establishing an escrow account."

Romneyite rhetoric reeks of Orwell.

34 posted on 12/31/2007 4:14:26 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Reagan Man

Hey, if the government wants to force you to buy insurance, what are you going to do?
After all, it’s “the government”. They are our leaders and guardians and de facto parents.


35 posted on 12/31/2007 4:14:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard (/sarc)
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To: Leisler

What’s repugnant is the people who leave us, or the hospitals, holding the bag for the payment of their medical care resulting in closed hospitals, increased medical costs and skyrocketing insurance fees. Something’s got to give. Do we all wish it hadn’t come to this? Of course. Better a conservative figures it out than Hillary & Co.


36 posted on 12/31/2007 4:14:39 PM PST by redgirlinabluestate (www.MittReport.com)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Something’s got to give.

Yes, let's get rid of that horrible system of free enterprise. Bring on socialized Hllary-Care and Willard-Care!

37 posted on 12/31/2007 4:17:22 PM PST by Mojave
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To: redgirlinabluestate
If Chile, Eastern Europe and most of the world can back track to free, or free(ier) enterprise, why can’t we? Well, for starter we have weak, cowardly, not too well educated in political economy like Mitt who are INCREASING state intervention.
38 posted on 12/31/2007 4:17:25 PM PST by Leisler
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To: Reagan Man

I guess the question then is what to do with people who show up at the Emergency Room with life threatening conditions and no health insurance?

Trust them to pay? Make the taxpayers or those who do pay for health insurance pick up the tab? Let them die?


39 posted on 12/31/2007 4:17:59 PM PST by afortiori
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To: Reagan Man

"yenmor, yenmor, yenmor, YENMOR!, YENMOR!!!"

40 posted on 12/31/2007 4:20:07 PM PST by matt1234
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