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Should Women Submit? Huckabee Says Yes Candidate: Take Nation 'Back For Christ'
WFSB.com Hartford ^ | December 31, 2007 | AP

Posted on 12/31/2007 9:55:48 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough

DES MOINES, Iowa -- Mike Huckabee, a Republican relying on support from religious conservatives in Thursday's hard-fought presidential caucuses, on Sunday stood by a decade-old comment in which he said, "I hope we answer the alarm clock and take this nation back for Christ."

n a television interview, the ordained Southern Baptist minister and former Arkansas governor made no apologies for the 1998 comment made at a Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Salt Lake City.

"It was a speech made to a Christian gathering, and, and certainly that would be appropriate to be said to a gathering of Southern Baptists," Huckabee said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

He gave the speech the same year he endorsed the Baptist convention's statement of beliefs on marriage that "a wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ." Huckabee and his wife, Janet, signed a full-page ad in USA Today in support of the statement with 129 other evangelical leaders.

The former governor, who rallied Christian evangelicals to make him a surprise force in Iowa, has put his faith front and center in his campaign. His stump speech sounds like a pastor's pitch from a pulpit. Campaign ads emphasize faith and call him a Christian leader. He frequently quotes Bible verses.

As his fortunes have improved, Huckabee has faced a drumbeat of questions and criticism about his gubernatorial record and the role of faith in his administration. He also has made some missteps while trying to fend off a challenge -- and critical TV ads -- from Mitt Romney, a former Massachusetts governor and Mormon whose faith unsettles some religious conservatives.

Four days before the caucuses Thursday, a new poll found Huckabee's surge may have stalled; his once double-digit lead over Romney has evaporated. Private polling shows the two in a dead heat.

The television interview was Huckabee's only campaign appearance Sunday.

With the media throng following him having grown immensely, Huckabee scrapped a public event at a church in favor of attending a private service closed to reporters. Instead of courting voters, he hunkered down to film new TV ads, perhaps spots responding to Romney's barrage of critical commercials.

As recently as Friday, Huckabee insisted he wanted to run a positive campaign. He also reserved the right to respond aggressively.

Those skeptical of the role of faith in his presidency, he said, should look at his record in Arkansas.

"I didn't ever propose a bill that we would remove the Capitol dome of Arkansas and replace it with a steeple," he said. "You know, we didn't do tent revivals on the grounds of the Capitol."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: huckabee; huckster; reallygonnasell; religion
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how blatant
1 posted on 12/31/2007 9:55:49 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

As a woman, the thought of submitting to the Huckster... I’m feeling sick.


2 posted on 12/31/2007 9:57:17 AM PST by Yaelle (Fred Thompson: the intelligent choice for conservatives.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

If he wants to take the nation back for Christ I’m all for it- as long as he does it from the pulpit and not the Oval Office.


3 posted on 12/31/2007 9:58:30 AM PST by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Ephesians 5:21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.


4 posted on 12/31/2007 9:59:30 AM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

People always forget the next paragraph in Ephesians 5:

(v. 25) “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her...”

That preaches! ;-)


5 posted on 12/31/2007 10:00:53 AM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: LurkedLongEnough
a wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ.

HAHAHAHA I wondered when this was going to show up at FR. If another candidate said that it would have been reported before he got the sentence out of his mouth and there would have been virtual rioting on the blogs and web sites.

6 posted on 12/31/2007 10:02:23 AM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

This guy is deliberately dividing Americans along religous lines to acquire political power. It is sick and disgusting. He might as well be Benny Hinn or Peter Popoff.


7 posted on 12/31/2007 10:03:03 AM PST by Grig
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Oh brother... submit to my foot, jackass.


8 posted on 12/31/2007 10:03:07 AM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: rface

No way he’s going to win. It’s all a big media song and dance. The MSM loves this as it gives them a chance to paint the GOP as Christian Taliban, playing into the cultivated fears of the bi-coastal viewers and readers.

Ultimately this helps McCain and Guilliani as there is sure to be a backlash against not just the Huckster, but anyone perceived as “too religious” in the GOP races outside of the Bible Belt.

Think Huckster is going to win GOP races in Connecticut (where this article appears), New York, New Jersey or Florida? California? Washington?

Not a chance.


9 posted on 12/31/2007 10:03:43 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Don’t care, he governs as a tax and spend, big government, meddle-in-your-life-liberal nuff said.


10 posted on 12/31/2007 10:04:36 AM PST by Khepri (Fred Thompson, he's a hundred miles away son - READY TO STRIKE!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"a wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband"

awww jeez... there goes the independent feminazi vote... (can't help laughing over Huckabee's statement)

11 posted on 12/31/2007 10:06:14 AM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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To: Domandred

Personally I find Huckabee’s domestic policy to have an arrogant bunker mentality. ;-)


12 posted on 12/31/2007 10:07:03 AM PST by rhombus
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To: LurkedLongEnough

One thing about the Huckabee/Romney religious issues, is that the media talks about Romney’s imagined religious attacks against his Mormonism, while in reality Huckabee’s religion is truly under open, vicious , constant attack.

Christian bashing is so normal in America, that it really isn’t even usually noticed.


13 posted on 12/31/2007 10:09:12 AM PST by ansel12 (Washington:I cannot tell a lie,Clinton:I cannot tell the truth,Romney:I cannot tell the difference.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

OK...I’m certainly not a Huckabee supporter, but this is totally unfair.

What he said in the context of a religious gathering should not be used to clobber him over the head with in a political campaign.

And, I don’t see anything particularly offensive with the sentiments expressed anyhow. Hardly sectarian, really.


14 posted on 12/31/2007 10:09:37 AM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: Yaelle
I was wondering the other day when I saw this, why the media didn't jump all over this lol. Submit is a positive word that we have changed to a negative. It just means leadership. Someone has to be picked to have the final say. There would be chaos, otherwise. Think about at work. How would it be if the team leader didn't lead and everyone refused to accept any guidance and all did there own thing? The person that wrote this article...do they accept (submit) to the leadership of their supervisor?

Anyway, I say elect though because a woman chooses the leader of the home. If someone goes off on a power trip..well..they can be counseled or impeached:')

15 posted on 12/31/2007 10:09:55 AM PST by CindyDawg (.)
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To: Abigail Adams
People always forget the next paragraph in Ephesians 5:

Absolutely correct!!

But please notice that there is no prerequisite for one or the other... they are commands not agreements (not, wives, submit to your husbands because they love you and serve the Lord.. nor, Husbands, love your wives because they submit to the authority the Lord gave you....)

16 posted on 12/31/2007 10:10:37 AM PST by logic (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE conservative candidate!!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"a wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband..."

Oh yeah, he would be a GREAT CANDIDATE. Gonna win alot of votes with that one. Sure, its not like we can lose 49 states like effing Mondale. (sarcasm)

PS - I know that this is a belief in the Baptist church and is inline with Hucksterbee's religion. This will be fodder for the general election.

17 posted on 12/31/2007 10:11:29 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Abigail Adams

“Ephesians 5: (v. 25) “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her...”

Preach it, Sister!

I’m quite the independent type, but this nation never would have LEFT being “Under God” had we had more men in the population that stood up to the NOW Hags and the pig-in-a-poke they sold us years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. Women should’ve been knocking their looney heads together, too.

I may sound like a One Note Wonder on this issue, but I do blame a lot of our social ills on the fact that we got away from what is RIGHT and HOLY and ultimately went with what “feels good.” I’ve made my share of mistakes and have watched other women of my generation do the same; I have a divorce behind me, but finding the right man to love, respect, cherish, build a FAMILY with and be a helpmate to has made a world of difference in my life.

I wish it for every God-fearing woman out there. Don’t sell yourselves short, Ladies! :)


18 posted on 12/31/2007 10:11:37 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Where in the Bible does it say women submit to men?

Wives submit to husbands, yes, but that's not what the headline says.

And this is the command to husbands:

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her
26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word,
27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—
30for we are members of his body . . .
. . . 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

19 posted on 12/31/2007 10:12:44 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: Grig
This guy is deliberately dividing Americans along religous lines to acquire political power.

I agree. Its disgusting.

20 posted on 12/31/2007 10:13:09 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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