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1 posted on 12/31/2007 8:57:39 AM PST by Clemenza
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2 posted on 12/31/2007 8:58:31 AM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Clemenza
If you haven't got the message that something disturbing is happening in the oil world, stop by my office. On my desk, I have a pile of books a foot high with titles like Out of Gas, The End of Oil, and Twilight in the Desert. The authors range from geologists to journalists to policy wonks, and they all tell the same story.

For years, oil industry executives dismissed fears of an energy crisis, attributing rising gasoline prices to unrest in the Middle East, Wall Street speculation, and temporary interruptions in supply. But recently, as the price of crude has bounced around $100 a barrel, even some establishment figures have been making alarmist noises. The Paris-based International Energy Agency warned of a possible "supply crunch" within five years. Its chief economist, Fatih Birol, said prices could reach such a high level that "the wheels may fall off" the global economy. In the U.S., the National Petroleum Council, a federal advisory group, said that as the economies of China and India continue to expand, global energy consumption will rise by 50 percent over the coming quarter of a century. "There is no quick fix," said Lee Raymond, former chairman of Exxon Mobil, who leads the council.

Perhaps not. But the experts who are predicting the worst, based on geology and geopolitics, are missing the crucial role that economic incentives play in determining the price of crude. The tripling of oil prices since the summer of 2003 has unleashed forces that within the next two or three years will bring oil prices tumbling back down to below $50 a barrel. Looking even further ahead, prices could easily fall to $30 a barrel or even lower. So before you trade in your Cadillac Escalade for a Toyota Prius, think twice: $1.50-a-gallon gas might not be gone forever.

The key to understanding where prices are headed is distinguishing between the short run and the long run. In a time frame of anything shorter than five years, the supply of crude is more or less fixed. Drilling for oil is an arduous and unpredictable process. Even after a new hydrocarbon reservoir is discovered, ramping up output takes years. Current production capacities reflect investment decisions made in the late 1990s or earlier.

Today, OPEC has the ability to produce about 35 million barrels of crude a day; the rest of the world can produce perhaps 50 million barrels a day. As recently as 2003, this seemed like plenty. Since then, though, global demand has grown rapidly, and a series of catastrophes—some natural (hurricanes Rita and Katrina), some man-made (war in Iraq and unrest in Nigeria and Venezuela)—have curtailed production, causing supply to dip below demand. In September, the global demand for crude reached 85.9 million barrels a day, whereas global supply was just 85.1 million barrels a day, according to I.E.A. figures.

When shortages emerge in any market, prices spike. If the imbalance is expected to continue, speculators move in and drive prices even higher. Oil is no exception. In the fall, as crude inventories declined and the rhetorical battle between the U.S. and Iran escalated, trading volume shot up.

With prices close to the inflation-adjusted record, energy companies and governments are investing heavily in facilities that generate crude and crude substitutes. Consumers of fuel oil and gasoline are starting to economize, and over time, these changes in behavior will shift the balance of power in their favor. When that happens, an oil glut will emerge, and the price will plummet.

Already, in Texas and California, hundreds of mothballed, low-producing stripper wells have been brought back into production. In Africa, the Chinese government is making development deals with Sudan, Chad, the Congo Republic, and other impoverished nations with unexploited reserves. In the Canadian province of Alberta, Shell and other energy companies are building massive strip mines to access local tar sands, which can be converted into synthetic oil or refined directly into petroleum at a cost of roughly $30 a barrel. Some experts believe the sands contain more oil than the subdeserts of Saudi Arabia.

Not very long ago, energy companies were slashing their exploration and drilling budgets, refusing to finance any project unless it could generate crude for $15 or $20 a barrel. But since 2003, when the price of crude rose above $30 a barrel, the industry has relaxed its financial assumptions and beefed up capital spending. In the past four years, Exxon Mobil, the world's largest oil company, has invested more than $60 billion in exploration and development. Between now and 2010, the company plans to begin pumping oil or gas from no fewer than 20 new projects.

Besides Canada, the oil majors are also returning to areas that weren't economically viable when oil was cheap, including the Arctic Ocean and the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico. The industry's efforts aren't confined to searching for new reserves. It is also investing heavily in high-tech imaging machines and steerable drills that raise yields from existing reservoirs, where historically only the most readily available crude, typically 30 to 40 percent of the total, was recovered. (Extracting the rest was considered too costly, so it was left alone.)

When experts claim that oil is running out, what they really mean is that cheap oil is running out. About this, they may be right. Outside of Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and a few other countries, it is no longer possible to recover large quantities of crude for a dollar or two a barrel. But there are plenty of places where oil can be produced for $20 or $30 a barrel, let alone the $100 range where it has been trading recently.

And the list of potential substitutes for crude is long. Natural gas can be converted to a liquid fuel that produces few pollutants. Venezuela has big reserves of tar sands, as does Utah. Neighboring Colorado has oil trapped in shale, which industry engineers are trying to extract by slowly heating the rock under the Green River Basin. Corn, sugar, and potatoes can be distilled into ethanol, a perfectly good transport fuel, as can wood chips, straw, and other biomass. And as demand for ethanol has surged in recent years, farmers throughout the Midwest have taken advantage of generous federal subsidies to convert their fields to corn, the price of which doubled in the past 18 months. (When oil prices fall, such crop switching may prove to be a costly mistake.)

With energy supplies expanding and the demand for oil showing signs of faltering, it won't be very long before economic fundamentals reassert themselves. If oil were a normal commodity, competition would eventually drive the price down to a level close to the current cost of production, which at the margin is probably somewhere between $20 and $30 a barrel.

Of course, the oil market is hardly a textbook case of open competition: The OPEC cartel controls 40 percent of the supply, and geopolitics is an ever-present factor, as is speculation. The recent surge toward $100 a barrel was a dramatic demonstration of how traders can cause prices to become unmoored from costs for a lengthy period. But that also means that once market sentiment turns, the fall in prices could be just as dramatic.

Nobody in the oil market—not Wall Street, not Exxon Mobil, not even OPEC—can sustain prohibitively high prices for very long, a point that Sheik Yamani, the Saudi oil minister during the oil price shocks of the '70s and '80s, recognized. "If we force Western governments to invest heavily in finding alternative sources of energy, they will," he said in 1981, shortly after OPEC production cuts caused the price of crude to hit a record of $39.50 a barrel—roughly $100 a barrel in 2007 dollars. "This will take them no more than seven to 10 years and will result in their reduced dependence on oil as a source of energy to a point which will jeopardize Saudi Arabia's interests."

Most people ignored Yamani's warning, but he was right. Between 1979 and 1983, oil consumption in the non-Communist world fell by 6 billion barrels a day, or more than 10 percent. Motorists bought smaller cars. Homeowners threw out their oil furnaces. Power stations switched to coal, nuclear fuel, and natural gas. And this all happened at a time when new oil fields in Alaska, Mexico, and the North Sea were coming onstream in a big way. The result was an excess supply of crude and a huge drop in prices. In 1986, the cost of a barrel of crude fell to as low as $11.

The oil industry entered a prolonged slump, devastating Texas and other producing areas. For most of the '90s, the cost of a barrel of crude stayed below $20. At the end of 1988 and the start of 1989, it fell below $10, and you could get change out of a dollar for a gallon of gas.

I'm not saying that the oil price will slink all the way back to $10 a barrel. But a reckoning is inevitable. Serious divisions are emerging within OPEC about 2008 production levels. Presidential candidates in the U.S. are calling for tougher fuel-economy standards. Many Western countries, the U.S. and Britain included, have been making plans for a new generation of nuclear power plants. In the oil market, the laws of supply and demand sometimes appear to have been suspended. Ultimately, however, they do work.

3 posted on 12/31/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor")
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To: Clemenza

Oil prices will drop once W is out of office.


9 posted on 12/31/2007 9:09:03 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Clemenza

I figure gas prices will drop precipitously from the present 3.25 down to 4.50 by summer, too.


10 posted on 12/31/2007 9:09:18 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: Clemenza

It comes down to supply and demand.

Will demand drop? I doubt it, Americans might drive mover fuel efficient cars, but that will be offset by increased demand from China and India.

Will Supply increase? There have been some major discoveries that could be on line in 5 years, but many major field are producing less and less every year. For example, Mexico and Great Britian both produce less oil than they did 10 years ago and have gone from oil exporters to oil importers.

Also the new sources of oil that are being discovered are more expensive to extract. Oil in Saudi Arabia costs $3-$4 to extract. Deep ocean wells and tar sands cost $20-$30 to extract.


16 posted on 12/31/2007 9:10:38 AM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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they’ve been saying this for roughly 5 years.


22 posted on 12/31/2007 9:16:53 AM PST by Brilliant
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Why, hillarybeast has already promised to lower gap prices if only we elect her...


24 posted on 12/31/2007 9:20:08 AM PST by geo40xyz ((Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT))
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To: Clemenza

This is the right logic (supply versus demand) (taking into account how long the oil will last (which is looking longer and longer every day.)

But demand continues to increase and supply is only barely keeping up.

The right question is “when will demand growth slow down or when will the current world-wide economic boom (yes boom) slow down?”

When will China’s economic growth slow down? When will the developing countries and the third world countries slow down (from the way they are catching up now)?

Things won’t change until there is some very large shock (or pollution causes China to retrench.) I am not predicting those things to occur any time soon.

Oil demand grows to 88.9 million barrels per day in September 2008 (about 3.5% per year) seems to be the best guess (and Oil will be priced over $100 per barrel.)

(Or the Saudis decide to put the breaks on new development again like they did in 1986 - possible but unlikely considering they are going full out right now and they seem to like $100 per barrel.)


33 posted on 12/31/2007 9:23:13 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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50% drop puts the price at the high end of its value based on fundamentals... Its not an if, just when.


39 posted on 12/31/2007 9:28:24 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Just in time to make the Democrats look good.

Why does it always seem to work this way?

44 posted on 12/31/2007 9:34:04 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Clemenza
Economist von Mises wrote that prices have two important functions: the first is well known. The second is important in its own right, and was in fact the reason the USSR collapsed: prices send signals to everyone about the value of the product in relation to similar products and in relation to the market as a whole. They also send signals about what the people involved with producing the product think about the future supply or demand about the product. Prices help people to plan and set priorities.

We are scolded by the Left about “peak oil” a concept that is as truthful about the supply of gasoline as “global warming” is as honest about climate change. But the only thing that matters is the price of fuels at the pump, for the price sends the only signal the public needs to understand.

If the price climbs too high, the public will change its behavior that affects the amount of fuel it needs to buy. It also signals investors as to what alternate fuel process is commercially viable, so as to provide a replacement source for the hydrocarbons we now get by cracking crude into diesel, jet fuel and gasoline.

If the price falls too low, the public will buy more, but there is a limit to that as other wants such as buying a new iPod start to compete for the funds previously spend on fuel.

55 posted on 12/31/2007 9:51:12 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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loller. We all have to drive to work and are forced to buy oil based fuels weekly. We import much of the oil from other countries, and the majority of those countries hate us. That price is going to drop precipitously if dropping precipitously means that gas will be $4 a gallon by summer.


56 posted on 12/31/2007 9:52:52 AM PST by mysterio
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Link that works:

http://www.portfolio.com/views/columns/economics/2007/12/17/Why-Oil-Prices-Will-Drop#


57 posted on 12/31/2007 9:53:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
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65 posted on 12/31/2007 10:05:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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66 posted on 12/31/2007 10:05:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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The only reason oil prices are high at all is “futures speculators”.
There is plenty of fuel and lots of liberal hype about how it’s going to run out.


85 posted on 12/31/2007 10:50:56 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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In the Canadian province of Alberta, Shell and other energy companies are building massive strip mines to access local tar sands, which can be converted into synthetic oil or refined directly into petroleum at a cost of roughly $30 a barrel. Some experts believe the sands contain more oil than the subdeserts of Saudi Arabia.

That is probably the single most significant line in the entire article. I believe that oil will decline in price significantly in the next couple of years (since a lot of the increase in the price has been due to speculation and/or a fear premium related to the Mideast), but it'll probably never go below $30-$40/bbl. Given that, Shell and others can invest in R&D for tar sands with the knowledge that they pretty much can't lose money - the only question is "how much will they make?"

Given the size of the reserves, in a few years this will have an immense impact on the market. When combined with more (and far better) diesel-powered autos, hybrids, battery-powered autos, what Shiek Yamani was worried about 25 years ago will come to pass.

The market cannot be pre-empted forever by speculators, nor by governments (just ask the few Soviets left).

90 posted on 12/31/2007 11:00:42 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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BUMP!


99 posted on 12/31/2007 11:40:21 AM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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Earlier this year I came across a Saudi government estimate that they needed oil to stay above $40. a barrel in order to pay for all their social welfare programs, government expenses, and make the payments on their loans to the banks of the world. Even though they have been raking in the $ all these years from oil, they have always spent more and are constantly in debt to the banks.

I laughed when the liberals screamed that the war in Iraq was for cheap oil. They were wrong that we went there FOR cheap oil, we went there to keep oil from being cheap!

If you were reading the WSJ for the two years leading up to the war, you might remember that the Saudis were threatening to default on their loans to the world’s major banks. The reason being that the price of oil was falling because Saddam was dumping so much oil on the world market. (Thank the Oil for Food program and all the back door deals.) The dumping had to be stopped or the Saudis would default and cause a world wide banking disaster.

Eliminating Saddam was the expedient thing to do. Killing two birds with one stone, the Saudi’s could ‘encourage’ the whiners and dissents in the kingdom to head into the meat grinder that became Iraq thereby lessening the threat of an overthrow and the price of oil goes up so they could pay their bills. In the first year of the war they accelerated their payments to the banks and actually paid off some of the loans.

My point is that supply and demand is not the only reason the price of oil goes up. How does this figure into all of your calculations?


107 posted on 12/31/2007 12:21:04 PM PST by anonsquared
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I've neen waiting for this one.

Back in the 70s, during the Carter fiasco, there was an article in the WSJ entitled, "The Coming Glut in the World Opil Market."

I guess this is the same thing.

110 posted on 12/31/2007 12:27:12 PM PST by HIDEK6
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