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The Hangover That Lasts
NY Times ^ | December 29, 2007 | PAUL STEINBERG

Posted on 12/29/2007 10:23:09 PM PST by neverdem

NEW Year’s Eve tends to be the day of the year with the most binge drinking (based on drunken driving fatalities), followed closely by Super Bowl Sunday. Likewise, colleges have come to expect that the most alcohol-filled day of their students’ lives is their 21st birthday. So, some words of caution for those who continue to binge and even for those who have stopped: just as the news is not so great for former cigarette smokers, there is equally bad news for recovering binge-drinkers who have achieved a sobriety that has lasted years. The more we have binged — and the younger we have started to binge — the more we experience significant, though often subtle, effects on the brain and cognition.

Much of the evidence for the impact of frequent binge-drinking comes from some simple but elegant studies done on lab rats by Fulton T. Crews and his former student Jennifer Obernier. Dr. Crews, the director of the University of North Carolina Bowles Center for Alcohol Studies, and Dr. Obernier have shown that after a longstanding abstinence following heavy binge-drinking, adult...

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So, some possible resolutions for the New Year:

Stop after one or two drinks. Studies of the Mediterranean diet have shown that one or two drinks on a consistent basis leads to a longer life than pure teetotaling.

If you must binge, start at age 40, not at age 16 — and always have someone else drive. Just as youth is wasted on the young, so perhaps is alcohol.

If you have binged excessively when younger, follow it up with some regular exercise. Get those brain cells regenerated.

As Shakespeare once pointed out without the benefit of studies on lab rats, “O God, that men should put an enemy in their mouths to steal away their brains!”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alcohol; alcoholabuse; brain; health; marijuana; neurology; wod
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To: dragnet2

Why should any profession be subject to random drug testing?


21 posted on 12/29/2007 11:27:10 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: KJC1

ROFL.

Are you two going to come to blows over this?

(tips beer, in a peace gesture)


22 posted on 12/29/2007 11:29:04 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: padre35

I hear ya KJC1, ran into a “sobriety” check point this evening, normally I despise those things (NCSHP run check point) but the officer was clear, roll down the window, chat a bit, off you go.

He was only checking to see if

A. I was wearing the seat belt
B. Had been drinking.

Folks, a .357 mag bullet travels at 1,400 ft per second with 900 ft pds of energy or so, a Vehicle can travel 60 mph + with a ft pd of energy around 37,000 ft per second, far mroe deadly, drink if you feel like it, but do not think it is wimpy to take a cab....

Let me add the officer was clear “and professional”


23 posted on 12/29/2007 11:29:23 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: KJC1
Why don’t they routinely and randomly drug test LEOs and judges like they do in many other professions?

Do you understand the difference between “being subject to drug testing” and mandatory random drug testing, like in many other professions?

What part of me telling you that LEOs sign on the dotted line to be subjected to drug/alcohol testing do you not understand?

OK, so you are saying LEOS are subject to routine, regular ON-GOING mandatory drug testing programs?

In other words are you picked at random, when you show up for your shift, to be drug tested as part of a mandatory routine drug testing program? I cannot possibly make this any clearer for you.

I know the answer, but I'd like to get your response.

24 posted on 12/29/2007 11:33:01 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: padre35
Why should any profession be subject to random drug testing?

They shouldn't but are. And this has nothing to do with the question I am trying to pry out of the the other poster here. lol

25 posted on 12/29/2007 11:34:21 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: padre35

Thanks. Most and I mean 99% of drivers are friendly and even thankful we are there. The other 1% are the sour and/or guilty apples who’d be the first ones to cry, “You cops let that driver through, and three people were killed!’

The checkpoints are good, really. Most people get it. Thanks for being one of them. :)


26 posted on 12/29/2007 11:34:48 PM PST by KJC1
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To: KJC1

This particular check point was for a specific purpose, seat belts, and DWI’s, some check points one has to play 20 questions to navigate through and that IMO, goes to far.


27 posted on 12/29/2007 11:37:13 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: dragnet2

“They shouldn’t but are. And this has nothing to do with the question I am trying to pry out of the the other poster here. lol”

I’ve been trying to follow along your line of reasoning, and may have missed what the pry bar is being applied to.

Is it some sort of legal Hippocracy?

A sort of of State Sanctioned wink and nod of substance abuse among the rank and file LEO’s and Judges?

??????


28 posted on 12/29/2007 11:40:18 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: dragnet2

Yes. In answer to your question, we AGREE to be tested at any time. What more do you want?

If we said NO, shit would hit the fan. If I said no, I would be put on leave, then fired if I continued to refuse.

If you want more than that I’d offer you my first born but I don’t know you that well and with your standards you will never find common sense.


29 posted on 12/29/2007 11:42:16 PM PST by KJC1
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To: padre35
I’ve been trying to follow along your line of reasoning, and may have missed what the pry bar is being applied to.

For Gods sakes, I am asking a couple of simple questions, that I have repeated 4 times now, and each time they are avoided and not answered. This is not complicated. LOL!

Can you not read?

30 posted on 12/29/2007 11:45:14 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: peggybac
I’m curious what his definition of binge drinking is.

Being drunk. Ever. Also, if you have binge drank more than once, you are an alcoholic.

Bet you that definition is pretty close to the "official" one.
31 posted on 12/29/2007 11:48:20 PM PST by mysterio
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To: KJC1
In other words are you picked at random, when you show up for your shift, to be drug tested as part of a mandatory routine drug testing program? I cannot possibly make this any clearer for you.

Yes. In answer to your question, we AGREE to be tested at any time. What more do you want?

I hope you are never required to testify in court. Repeated responses like that, and avoiding direct questions as you have demonstrated would qualify for contempt.

32 posted on 12/29/2007 11:50:03 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: KJC1
Let me try this.

At your department, do they draw ID or badge numbers out of a hat, or randomly by computer each month and require you to submit to a drug test, as part of a mandatory drug testing program?

Yes or no?

33 posted on 12/29/2007 11:55:01 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Wrong. You sound like a person with a grudge, and that would play out to a jury.

We don’t pee in a cup everyday but we agree that we CAN be asked to pee in a cup everyday.

What do YOU do? Do you have this requirement?


34 posted on 12/29/2007 11:55:48 PM PST by KJC1
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To: dragnet2
hope you are never required to testify in court. Repeated responses like that, and avoiding direct questions as you have demonstrated would qualify for contempt.

Well I've been giggling through your thread here and, as I see it, the question has been answered four or five times. Now it might not be the answer YOU want, but your question has been answered. If I faced you in court, I would object that you were badgering the witness.

35 posted on 12/29/2007 11:56:08 PM PST by Wingy
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To: KJC1

Let me try this.

At your department, do they draw ID or badge numbers out of a hat, or randomly by computer each month and require you to submit to a drug test, as part of a mandatory drug testing program?

Yes or no?


36 posted on 12/29/2007 11:57:36 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Is your question a comparison to a sobriety checkpoint, by chance?...


37 posted on 12/29/2007 11:59:12 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (I'm a proud Yankee Doodle Protectionist)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

LOL...


38 posted on 12/30/2007 12:00:11 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No that wasn’t the focus or motivation of my question, but it could be applied.

I was waiting for someone to ask that. lol...


39 posted on 12/30/2007 12:04:28 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

AGAIN, at any time, any place we agree to be tested. Night or day rain or shine. On Christmas. Thanksgiving.

If you have no experience in law enforcement besides being on the ass-end of it (and my money is there based on experience), shut the f*ck up.

My patience is waning.


40 posted on 12/30/2007 12:06:01 AM PST by KJC1
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