Posted on 12/29/2007 8:49:19 PM PST by MrArbitrage123
To my post about "McCain's Health" I have received responses by many who think I am trying to smear McCain and spread a rumor. Considering the timing, I can understand why they would think my intent was less than altruistic so I am not going to counter the assertions to that effect.
I will admit that his supposed rise in the polls was indeed the catalyst for my bringing it up. I did make this point to my wife about 6 months or so ago when I noticed the fact that he's always holding the rolled up paper in the right hand but since he hasn't been a candidate that most consider formidable, I didn't feel the need to ask the question of whether he might have Parkinson's. I still think the polls showing his "rise" are no more than Fox's attempt to campaign for him under the guise of sharing polling data with us, hoping it will becaome a self fulfilling prophecy.
However, if he were to have a chance at being the Republican nominee, I think his health is a valid cause for concern. I didn't realize that his arm and shoulder was broken as a POW so I thank those of you who pointed this out. That seems like a reasonable explanation.
You know how when celebrities get a disease and suddenly that disease becomes the most important cause in the world and they lobby Congress to give more federal aid like Michael J. Fox?
Below is an article about John McCain and it shows that he is not really pro-life but rather someone who tries to find ways to double speak so to satisfy the pro-abortionists AND the right to lifers. What is strange is his support for fetal-tissue experimentation and how he actually led the opposition and BLOCKED Dan Coates' amendment to prevent federal funding of this ignominious practice. Why would he block federal funding of FETAL-TISSUE research for PARKINSON'S?
Some have brought in the fact that I support Huckabee and acused me of "working for Huckabee", which is patently false. Huckabee has been very kind to McCain and would certainly not advocate anyone affilliated with his campaign spreading rumors. That is not my intent and I am in no way whatsoever affiliated with Huckabee's campaign. I have never met nor have I ever even SPOKEN with anyone formally working for Mike Huckabee, including Huckabee himself of course. I have contributed money 3 times to Huckabee but am no different than most of the other freepers here. I am someone living in Florida who posts about the candidate whom I support and on other topics of interest.
http://www.nrlc.org/news/1999/NRL999/mccain.html " McCain has been an active supporter of the use of federal funds for experimentation utilizing tissue taken from aborted babies. The most recent occasion on which that issue came before the Senate was in 1997, when pro-life Senator Dan Coats (R-In.) attempted to prevent federal funding of abortion-dependent fetal tissue research for Parkinson's disease. McCain led the opposition to the Coats amendment, which was defeated. "
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying; I can’t stand McCain. But shouldn’t this have been posted as a reply to your original vanity, rather than as a brand new vanity?
That's what I would have done.
Ain't that the truth - and not just by Fox for McCain. Hoping it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Thanks for reminding us of McCain's two-facedness on life. Here's your link, hyperlinked: http://www.nrlc.org/news/1999/NRL999/mccain.html
True and he needs to say something about how sick looking that parchment slag Huckster is as well.
Point well taken. Regarding McCain’s double-speak on abortion, it is clear that he would do nothing to further the cause of protecting life even if he has placated pro-lifers on occasion. Can you imagine what kind of federal judges this guy would nominate to appease everyone?
This is a guy with personal ambitions for the oval office despite his record as a POW. Parkinsons? Hopefully not but in any case, he doesn’t look well and he should set aside the rigors of a presidency and enjoy his golden years with his family - in AZ.
McCain is not my choice for Pres. but as far as carrying something in his hand:
His arm was affected due to treatment as POW.
Sort of like Bob Dole usually carries something in his one hand due to major injory to it and arm in WWII
When I shook hands with him in ‘96 used my left hand
as that is how he could shake hands.
Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247
McCain and Stem Cell Research Round-up
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO"
SEN. JOHN McCAIN: THE ULTIMATE "RHINESTONE HERO" Part II
U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero
John McCain: The Manchurian Candidat
McCain Is Booed by Labor Activists
McCain Rides to Kerry's Rescue: "John Kerry is Not Weak on Defense" (Today Show alert)
John McCain SCREAMS AT 9/11 FSA MEMBERS FOR OPPOSING HIS BILL TO GIVE AMNESTY FOR ILLEGALS
A number of articles on McCain. (some the same as above)
McCain Seeks to Change California Primary
McCain/Soros by Rabbi Areyh Spero
Soros' "Reform" (an article about Soros‘ instrumental hand in McCain/Feingold)
Not Child‘s Play [McCain/Schumer bill could effect FR?]
McCain's Letter (McCain aligns with Global Enviro activists)
The Turning Point on Global Warming (McCain and Lieberman Op-Ed Alert)
Climate bill sets stage for debate (Sens. McCain, Obama, and Lieberman join forces)
McCain: Global warming is fact, must be addressed [hurl alert]
McCain Looked into Caucusing with Democrats
McCain Still Disliked by Fiscal Conservatives (Club For Growth)
John McCain Goes Left for Money
McCain, Obama Make Deal on Financing
Sens. Snowe, Collins to head Maine exploratory committee for McCain
Double Talk Express. McCain in his own words. VIDEO
More YOUTUBE - McCain On Abortion (UH OH! YouTube Has a Video of Him in 1999)
Your speculations are disgusting, and I’m not a McCain supporter.
The guy was brutalized and, like Bob Dole before him, has adopted some simple tricks to help blend in. Dole’s pencil, for example, helps prevent awkward situations when someone tries to shake his withered right hand. McCain does something similar.
I suspect you’re seeing what you want to see, and you’re pursuing an agenda. I said it on your other post and I’ll say it again here: it stinks, and has no place on this forum.
McCain is a worthless piece of nothing....
Morris Udall was a long time Representative from Arizona. He ran for the Democratic nomination for President against Jimmy Carter in 1976. Genial and witty, he was an ardent environmentalist and unabashedly liberal.
Udall developed Parkinson's disease and was forced to resign from Congress in 1991. Debilitated, he was confined to a hospital bed in Washington, DC. For seven long years until his death he lay there forgotten by all of his former colleagues, constituants, allies, friends and admirers. Except for one.
Parkinson's is not a pretty disease. It makes you uncomfortable to be around. You don't know how to act, you don't know what to say. But for all those years there was one visitor that Mo Udall could count on. Rain or shine, political firestorms aside, there was one man who would show up every week to sit and visit with his old friend. That man was John McCain.
When I was at Penn State I got to see Mo give a speech outside on the lawn at Old Main. This was when he was running for President in 1976. He was pretty entertaining, actually.
How about Duncan Hunter. He's healthy, solid conservative, and bold to take on the liberals for the next 8 years. The only thing he lacks are the finances to run a campaign approximating the money power of the "top tier". He can use financial help from all of you who are "Hunter's Rangers". Give him the means for a fighting chance. He'll do the job with less than the so called big guys, but campaigning requires funds. Send him a little or send the liberal tax increases a lot.
If something's wrong with McCain, I'm sure it'll come out in the liberal media sooner or later.
In the meantime, why worry about it? You're not going to vote for him anyway, right?
True and he needs to say something about how sick looking that parchment slag Huckster is as well.
Look at how much weight Huckabee has lost.
I am not saying that he has some horrible disease. I'm just underhandedly implying it for political purposes.
McCain’s face was symmetrical until his latest and worst (he’s had three) melanoma.
I should add that, now seven years out, McCain’s risk of dying from that particular melanoma is small, perhaps in the same ballpark as Rudy’s prostate cancer and Fred’s lymphoma, although I wouldn’t say his risk was zero. His other two melanomas were caught early and should be fine but the facial one was medium thickness IIRC and thus riskier. Late recurrences aren’t unusual in melanoma, and although his sentinel nodes were negative, such are not as reliable an indicator on head and neck melanomas as they are on other sites. McCain is also at significant risk for yet more melanomas and the facial one showed that even with excellent monitoring they can appear quickly. I’m confident McCain would endorse Huckabee’s pasty white complexion!
I had not heard that story about Mo Udall and McCain.
Mo Udall was a fantastic human being. Liberal, sure, but in the Hubert Humphrey sense— there was no doubting his love of America, or the weight of his word, or his firm moral compass. The nation lost out bigtime when the DemocRats selected the odious Jimmy Carter over the fine patriot Udall.
In the proper circumstances, I would happily punch my chad for Udall even today. Guy was a mensch; you could ask for none better in the trench with you. And if the story you cite is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), it says superb things about McCain that I would not have anticipated.
But I do have some questions. Udall was part of a large and influential Mormon family. He was a distinguished veteran, a one-eyed basketball star, a gregariously sharp and jocular guy, and not only respected but well-loved by his constituents. While I can see his fellow DemocRats abandoning him (just as they’ve repeatedly abandoned their principles, the Constitution and, arguably, America), I have a hard time imagining a guy that well-loved mouldering alone in some dank nursing-home ward for seven years. Now, this forum is unfortunately stuffed with Mormon-bashers, but even they must admit that that isn’t the way the Mormon families let their elders fade away, not even from something as awful as Parkinson’s. Also, what of Barry Goldwater? He was still around, and had been a pal of Udall’s. Hell, everyone was a pal of Udall’s.
Gad, why is the DemocRat party utterly bereft of Mo Udalls today? That’s really sad.
Any further details on that remarkable McCain story would be much appreciated here.
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