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Many in Slovenia yearn for old Yugoslavia
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | December 29, 2007 | Bruno Waterfield

Posted on 12/29/2007 2:17:31 PM PST by joan

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To: dfwgator

Ditto mainland Chinese.


21 posted on 12/29/2007 4:20:15 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: elcid1970
Actually the Yugoslav military leadership was more Slovenian and Croatian and they didn't know what to do when the Slovenian TO (territorial defense) attacked the border guards. Also, the Yugoslav army barracks were cut off of electricity and water and the Slovenes even used their civilians to barricade them. When a helicopter tried to bring in bread for the hungry soldiers the Slovenes shot it down and gloated over the deaths of the wreckage (including strewn loaves of bread) and the dead pilots (who were ethnic Slovenes).

The Slovenes used threats againts the family members of the Yugoslav soldiers and also had many in the Yugoslav army leadership who defected with the army plans.

Basically there wasn't much fighting or interest in fighting to keep Slovenia.

Additionally Britain had sent the Slovenes with millions of military communication equipment shortly before the war broke out and there was smuggling of other weapons and help from other countries.

The Slovenes actually had it the best in Yugoslav because they had the leadership positions and even moved a lot of the choice industry from Serbia to Slovenia.

Now they are "independent" under EU dictates rather than ruling the roost in Yugoslavia and they are unhappy about that.

22 posted on 12/29/2007 4:22:40 PM PST by joan
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To: joan

Slovenes want control over all of former Yugoslavia? Nice try.

Yugoslavia was a Serbian empire from start to finish.

It’s the Serbs who hang onto Montenegro with their teeth.

Slovenes will take EU membership over Balkan swampland any day.


23 posted on 12/29/2007 4:42:30 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
Slovenes want the market of the former Yugoslavia and are heavily pushing their cheap goods there. When it left it said it wanted the European markets but it can't compete well there so its back with a vengence in former Yugoslavia.

Montenegro has separated from Serbia and the Serbs don't really mind - as long as the Serb population isn't being ethnically cleansed there, and it isn't so things are actually going fine between Montenegro and Serbia now.

But even that was done with western puppet government manipulation - not allowing Montenegrins working in Serbia to vote while flying in ethnic Albanians from Michigan and New York (who'd been born in Montenegro decades ago) to vote and even allowing some in Albanian (near the border of Montenegro) and Kosovo to vote, lowering the requirement for separation to barely over 50%, etc.

24 posted on 12/29/2007 4:54:26 PM PST by joan
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To: vladimir998

Horosho izlojil(uchites,Kisa) ;-)


25 posted on 12/29/2007 5:21:45 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: joan

Slovenes are free people. There’s nothing Srbs can do about it except annex with Belarus maybe.


26 posted on 12/29/2007 6:02:42 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: elcid1970
The Slovene military kicked Yugoslav (read Serbian) butt in 1991 when the latter tried to reimpose rule by Belgrade.

Yeah, right! Does delusion run in you family?

27 posted on 12/29/2007 6:26:05 PM PST by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: joan

a friend of mine here in socal emigrated from slovenia

to the states, and he says yugoslavia sucked.

these wimps are like the russians that look back to the good ol’

days of stalin.


28 posted on 12/29/2007 6:28:08 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: F-117A

“Does delusion run in you family?”

What you be tellin me bro?


29 posted on 12/29/2007 7:03:52 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: QQQQ

Kak?

You lost me after Horosho. LOL!

:)


30 posted on 12/29/2007 7:08:44 PM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: joan

One of Slovenian pre-WWII politicians said “Serbia gave us a parade horse. We will return them worn jade”. By that he meant that Serbia gave Slovenia place in Kingdom of Yugoslavia and that they will destroy Yugoslavia to get out.

It was carried out exactly like that. Slovenian propagandists
(with the help of BND specialists) prepackaged Austro-Hungarian propaganda and depicted Serbs as evil people who torment poor innocent Slovenes, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, Albanians etc.

This propaganda effort presented the core of Anti-Serbian hysteria, from the time of Slovene violent illegal seccession onwards.

Beside this, Slovenes helped bloody breakup of Yugoslavia with smuggling of weapons for Croatians and Muslims.

Despicable behavior to boot.

Now, when they are in EU, they are not content again. Austro-Hungarian Empire was not good enough to them, Kingdom of Yugoslavia was not good enough to them, post-WWII Yugoslavia was not good enough for them, EU is not good enough to them.

They show penchant for destruction, not for creativity.


31 posted on 12/29/2007 7:56:23 PM PST by DTA (Advice to Condi: when you are in a hole, stop digging)
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To: vladimir998

Try to read it again :-)


32 posted on 12/29/2007 8:15:47 PM PST by QQQQ
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To: elcid1970
"Yugoslavia was a Serbian empire from start to finish."

What? Are you smoking something?

33 posted on 12/29/2007 8:27:15 PM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Cacique

Ping!


34 posted on 12/29/2007 8:27:38 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: joan

I’d probably rather be called a Jug than a Slov.


35 posted on 12/29/2007 8:28:49 PM PST by aruanan
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To: joan
Trieste (now part of Italy, but once heavily Slovenian) was the major port of the empire.

Interestingly enough, my Great-Grandfather's papers when he entered this country in 1906 say "Austria" even though he was ethnically Polish.

36 posted on 12/29/2007 8:29:05 PM PST by Clemenza (I NO Heart Huckabee)
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To: elcid1970

He’s telling you that have no idea what you’re talking about.


37 posted on 12/29/2007 8:29:11 PM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: joan

“We got more out of Yugoslavia than the Austro-Hungarian Empire and I am not convinced we will get as much out of the EU.”
Slovenia was a poor and neglected province of Austria before Yugoslavia existed.


this report is totally biased. maybe true that slowenia got more out of yugoslavia than from the austrian empire but this was about a hundret years ago, so i guess every one has a better life standart now then we did have 100 years ago. and slowenia is richer and more developed now as they only could have dreamed about while they have been part of yugoslavia. so they are way better off now then they have been ever in the past.


38 posted on 12/30/2007 3:11:27 AM PST by austrian
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