David Whitehouse: Has global warming stopped?

New Statesman ^ | 19 December 2007 | David Whitehouse

[StnCldTruth]

COWS CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING

Can I offset my V8 Silverado 1500HD, if
I eat steak 7 days a week ???

[dirtbiker]

Injecting sunlight-scattering particles into the stratosphere appears to be a promising approach.

I thought that's what clouds do?

Doesn't it stand to reason the hotter it gets, the more clouds we'll have?

THEN, the more clouds we'll have, the COOLER it will get on the surface?

There's a LOT more H2O in the atmosphere than CO2, and plants need CO2 to grow.

In reality, the Earth can and does take care of itself, without our "help"....

[dirtbiker]

No the end of global warming like a reduction in oil prices will only come when Hillary is elected.

You mean how all the "homeless" during Reagan disappeared, just like when Bubba Klintoon was president....

[dirtbiker]

Do you have an explanation of how the atmospheric physics and chemistry predicting that “greenhouse gases” will raise atmospheric temperature is incorrect?

No, but I have researched the amounts of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere. Man's contribution accounts for about 3% of the total. Just 3%.

Algore and company are proposing we spend TRILLIONS of dollars to reduce our output by a small fraction of that 3%.

It would be more productive to get rid of the proponents of "global warming".

If it gets warmer, wouldn't we NEED LESS fuel to heat out homes in the winter, thereby cutting CO2 emissions?

GW is nothing more than a money making scheme by those related to the elixir salesmen of the old west....

[Sapper26]

Stabilizing temperature is a classic sign of global warming

[palmer]

Do you have an explanation of how the atmospheric physics and chemistry predicting that "greenhouse gases" will raise atmospheric temperature is incorrect?

There is no doubt that greenhouse gases raise the earth's temperature, the question is how much. Science has changed recently on this topic and is definitely not settled. The issues are how much warming is caused by CO2 in the upper atmosphere and how much warming is going to be caused by water vapor feedback throughout the atmosphere.

[cogitator]

IIRC, a substantial majority of the climate change literaure in the last few years doesn't support anthropogenic global warming.

You're not reading the appropriate literature. Your slice of the literature is probably being biased by your viewpoint. The vast majority of peer-reviewed scientific literature indicates that anthropogenic global warming is occurring. If you're just reading skeptical talking points, then I can see how you'd IIRI. (Final I = "incorrectly").

[cogitator]

The Power of Large Numbers

A few inaccurate stations doesn't change the picture. And there have been numerous weather stations in Third World countries maintained by First World entities (like the Dutch East India company) that provide valid data over decades. And should temperature data from Australia, or New Zealand, or South Africa be suspect?

Sorry, try again.

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

Do you have an explanation of how the atmospheric physics and chemistry predicting that “greenhouse gases” will raise atmospheric temperature is incorrect? If so, you really ought to publish it, as this would totally shake up the world of climate modeling

Your whole premise is wrong. Scientists are starting to realize that the evidence shows that warming precedes increased CO2 levels, not the other way around.

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

Why try to stop global warming?...From an expert..

Robert Balling, director of the office of climatology at Arizona State University, notes that "carbon dioxide concentrations were much higher in the past, millions of years ago, when plants evolved around the world."

Wouldn't it be ironic if global warming saved the rain forest? And the whales? More plankton? GW should be a wet dream to enviro's, but they got infiltrated by the Marxists after the fall of the Berlin Wall and are now suspect. The founder of Greenpeace says this, not me.

[potlatch]

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[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

From Investors Business Daily..March 2007

""Earlier this month Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor, appeared in "The Great Global Warming Swindle," a true documentary broadcast in Britain on Channel 4. In it, several scientists claimed that the theory of global warming had indeed become a religion with contrary opinions considered heresy.

Ball isn't likely to receive an Oscar bid, as Gore's full-length cartoon, "An Inconvenient Truth," did. Since the show aired, he has received at least five death threats by e-mail, including one that warned that if he continued to speak out, he would not live long enough to see the prophecy of global warmers come to pass.

Ball, who has a doctorate in climatology from the University of London and taught at the University of Winnipeg for 28 years, said the belief that disastrous climate change is imminent and that humans are the cause is the "greatest deception in the history of science." To the greenies, this is sacrilege.

Ball lives on Victoria Island, British Columbia, which he likes to remind people was connected to mainland Canada about 8,000 years ago when the sea level was 500 feet lower.

In an interview with Bill Steigerwald in Human Events, Ball noted the current warming trend actually "began in 1680, in the middle of what's called 'The Little Ice Age,' when there was 3 feet of ice on the Thames River in London." That's a bit before the first SUV hit the road. Blame the Industrial Revolution.

As Ball noted, "The world has warmed up until recently, and that warming trend doesn't fit with the CO2 record at all; it fits with the sunspot data. Of course, they are ignoring the sun because they want to focus on CO2."

"They" are the high priests of global warming, who have indeed had a chilling effect, so to speak, on free scientific inquiry. Nigel Calder, a former editor of New Scientist, said: "Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding under the current system."

Richard Lindzen, a professor of atmospheric science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, also appeared in the "Great Global Warming Swindle." "Scientists who dissent from the alarmism," he noted, "have seen their funds disappear, their work derided and themselves labeled as industry stooges."

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

""Don Easterbrook, a geology professor from Western Washington University, notes that within the past 15,000 years there have been shifts up to "20 times greater than the warming in the past century." Speaking of glaciers, Swiss climatologists believe that glaciers in the Alps have melted away at least 10 times in the past 10,000 years.

As we've noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on Earth's climate over time has been the sun. Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the past 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the past 100 years.""

[Ronaldus Magnus Reagan]

And I especially like this quote..

''The analogy I use is like my car's not running very well, so I'm going to ignore the engine which is the sun and I'm going to ignore the transmission which is the water vapour and I'm going to look at one nut on the right rear wheel which is the human produced CO2. The science is that bad.''-Dr Roy Spencer, former NASA senior climatologist

[Mike Darancette]

Actually some readings show that the temperature has gone down a trace amount since 1998.

1998-2006 annual trend is -.35F/decade and this is with NOAAs data which does not agree with NASA.

[Westlander]

[syriacus]

IMO, any causes of climate change other than solar radiance are insignificant.

I agree.

Gore's got things backwards.

He should remember the adage, "Make hay, while the sun shines."

After all, he and his fellow Tennesseeans are able to grow hay because the Ice Sheets melted.

Hay is an important commodity in Tennessee agriculture. Our high quality hay helps feed the large livestock industry throughout the state.

[devolve]

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I plan to reduce my carbon footprint when algore, John Kerry, Barbra Streisand, Robert Redford, Hillary Clinton cut back to only one residence of under 4,000 square feet less and use a maximum amount of energy that never exceeds that of the average American home

And when they donate all their vehicles and jets to charities and US military transport use that I alone will choose

And all politicians will forfeit all assets over $500,000 and income that exceeds $200,000 a year to the US Treasury

And all tax-exempt non-profit foundations, organizations and busineses are bannned - including the United Nations and all political groups and political campaign funding

All so-called “blind-trusts” would be banned and all politicians investments would be instantly available on internet sites

All under penalty of immediate confiscation of all assets and properties anywhere on the earth and community service of 50 years on a chain gang in the Everglades

All Greenies to be required to drive Yugos and live in pup tents and grow their own fuel from switch grass or process it from raw sewage at their own expense

[ExSoldier]

Global Warming stops every time ALGORE runs out of breath. When he regains his wind and opens his mouth (or puts word to paper/screen) it restarts. The solution seems simple....I wish it were that easy. Obviously it's not.

[steveab]

Answer to question ref post 61

JAMES HANSEN