Posted on 12/27/2007 4:10:27 PM PST by street_lawyer
Is Huckabee a Jimmy Carter Christian?
Recently Huckabee reportedly was unaware that the Supreme Court struck down an anti-sodomy law as being unconstitutional. How can we depend upon him to carry the social conservative banner into the next election cycle if he fails to understand one of the most basic and recent court decisions. How can we trust him to pick judges who are opposed to anal intercourse, if for no other reason than it is the most fertile infectious form of HIV transmission.
If you can vote for a man who is opposed to school choice and one who is endorsed by the National Education Association of New Hampshire, then Huckabee is your man. He does however give illegal aliens the choice to compete with US children for scholarship money. He did so because he did not want "innocent" children to be punished for the criminal activity of their parents. Perhaps Huckabee will allocate some tax revenue to pay for a fine education at one of our most prestigious boarding schools for the children of drug addicts who are imprisoned (occasionally). If you're a Huckabee supporter then you also agree that illegal immigration makes up for slavery. I don't understand the connection. Maybe someone can explain it to me.Here's a novel idea that apparently has no chance of working yet is the first thing on the Huckabee website: [commit] the resources of the federal government to the enforcement of our immigration laws.
Ok so Huckabee is a man of "faith" like Carter but according to his website he said "My faith doesn't influence my decisions" Neither does Giuliani's, so what is the difference? Giuliani will appoint judges who will not misconstrue the Constitution. Which is more then I can say for the Huckster. I support and have always supported passage of a constitutional amendment to protect the right (of the unborn to live); well isn't that just peachy Huckster?. Let's bet on the judges instead and forget about the electoral process which is about as infertile as I wish unwed mother were. He wants to overturn Roe v. Wade, but doesn't understand the Texas sodomy case Lawrence and Garner v. Texas. If it were not for the fact that anal intercourse is a very good delivery system for HIV infection, given the impracticality of policing this disgusting act, anal intercourse should not be a legislative matter, unless of course children in grammar school are instructed on how to perform this act safely. Somehow given the teacher's endorsement, I don't see the Huckster proposing any legislation that would limit teaching any form of perversion. Perhaps churchgoers can somehow figure out how to unconfuse the minds of their children while Huckabee does nothing about removing condoms from the hand-out basket at South Street Elementary School.
Socialism 101: According to the Huckster, Every child deserves a quality education, first-rate health care, decent housing in a safe neighborhood, and clean air and drinking water. Every child deserves the opportunity to discover and use his God-given gifts and talents. Apparently only public schools are capable of providing a quality education, since religious schools are not likely to demonstrate the various anal intercourse techniques. I got my first demonstration watching two dogs unable to separate. I noted that they were not same-sex unions. I also have never seen two same-sex animal unions which leads me to conclude that only in humans is there a normal variant from heterosexuals. In case you have not already discovered, I'm not opposed to homogeneous grouping, just acts which carry a high likelihood of killing a large segment of humanity. There are some acts which are so unnatural that even the Huckster should be able to comprehend them.
Jimrob has said the same thing. You should read the first page of this website, where it says this is not a GOP website.
So, maybe you would feel more comfortable posting at GOP.com or somesuch place. This is a website for conservatives.
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
In this poll Hunter is up 3% and even with Paul and Thompson.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=3481ef60-8195-46a9-af04-b87b907bcfdd
I’m offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site. I trust that no one's faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts? I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race. I'd like Thompson and I wish him the best.
Kevmo: Some may believe that we conservatives should not question a man who has a theological degree? Since when does becoming a minister make a person a conservative?
***I’ve never said that, and never hinted at it, so it appears you’re aiming for a deflection. Read what JimRob has to say, then answer the comment aimed at you with respect to conservatism.
Im offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site.
***And I’m offended by this post: “if you do not vote for Rudy then you are sitting in the center of the isle. Hillary should send you a thank you card for dropping out of the election.” We have a special bugzapper thread for RINOs like you:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts
So my suggestion that you refrain from posting was actually good advice. If you continue to post such drivel, it’s likely you’ll suffer the same fate as all those other impolite rudybots on the bugzapper thread. Read it and come up to speed before you post any more.
I trust that no one’s faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts?
***Red Herring
I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race.
***Typical RINO response, like a banker who will only lend money to someone who doesn’t need it. But Hunter supporters notice that when it comes to other candidates, the first part of the sentence is usually less charitable. Hunter is becoming the consensus candidate by means of such patronizing.
*** Ok, I guess, I'm totally lost and confused. It sounds like we are on the same page? I did read Jim's post and I also have the same wishful thinking that a social conservative can still be elected to the Presidency. Obviously Jim has not use for "lawyers". Oh, my God! Rudy is a lawyer! I guess all lawyers are fools, dishonest, liberal, and liars? That offends me more than you do.
Im offended by your suggestion that I refrain from posting my opinion on this site. ***And Im offended by this post: if you do not vote for Rudy then you are sitting in the center of the isle. Hillary should send you a thank you card for dropping out of the election. We have a special bugzapper thread for RINOs like you:
If you think that Huckabee can get elected then you also believe that Jesus will return before Hillary completely suppresses Christian morality. I would love to see a pro-life president elected, but all he or she can do is appoint another Justice like Roberts. That would be a blessing. You are apparently offended by my stating that Huckabee is far to the right (where I am actually) and Rudy is far to the left (where I wish the votes were not) Obviously non of us even RINO's don't want Hillary, so the way I see it brother is that we have to choose between the lesser of two undesirables. You've never had to do that then you have lost some battles and this is one battal I do not want to loose.
see my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947195/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1821435/posts So my suggestion that you refrain from posting was actually good advice. If you continue to post such drivel, its likely youll suffer the same fate as all those other impolite rudybots on the bugzapper thread. Read it and come up to speed before you post any more.
Rudybots? How is that supposed to inform me of anything other than you are completely opposed to reason?
I trust that no ones faith in Huckabee is threatened by some truthful facts? ***Red Herring I suppose you have enough knowlege of law school that you know this is a term used by first year law students. Should I assume you are one of the bad guys? ie: lawyers?
I like Duncan, but unfortunately he is not doing well in the race. ***Typical RINO response, like a banker who will only lend money to someone who doesnt need it. But Hunter supporters notice that when it comes to other candidates, the first part of the sentence is usually less charitable. Hunter is becoming the consensus candidate by means of such patronizing.
Keep praying for our country. Election day is not Sunday school goers.
I had a response drawn out but it did not get posted and now it’s lost. So my response this time will be more simple.
Ok, I guess, I’m totally lost and confused. It sounds like we are on the same page?
***Not to me, it looks like you’re just deflecting again.
I did read Jim’s post and I also have the same wishful thinking that a social conservative can still be elected to the Presidency. Obviously Jim has not use for “lawyers”. Oh, my God! Rudy is a lawyer! I guess all lawyers are fools, dishonest, liberal, and liars? That offends me more than you do.
***Then take it up with Jim.
If you think that Huckabee can get elected then you also believe that Jesus will return before Hillary completely suppresses Christian morality.
***This statement is a pure non-sequitur. It does not make sense. More deflection.
I would love to see a pro-life president elected, but all he or she can do is appoint another Justice like Roberts.
***We saw that so much with tootyfruitybots that many of us freepers were convinced they were talking points. It’s baloney. If you can read JimRob’s definition of conservative and then print that same statement, you are not a conservative.
That would be a blessing. You are apparently offended by my stating that Huckabee is far to the right (where I am actually) and Rudy is far to the left (where I wish the votes were not)
***No, I’m offended that you suggest I’m sitting in the aisle. Most of free republic is sitting in the aisle if tootyfruityrudy is nominated.
Obviously non of us even RINO’s don’t want Hillary, so the way I see it brother is that we have to choose between the lesser of two undesirables.
***Standard tootyfruityrudy talking points. Baloney. It’s also a false dilemma, classic fallacious reasoning. You’re not much of a lawyer if you’re still using classic fallacies. Why do you acknowledge you’re a RINO?
You’ve never had to do that then you have lost some battles and this is one battal I do not want to loose.
***Justification for your false dilemma reasoning.
see my post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1947195/posts
***Standard RINO single-issue stuff. The single issue is Hillary. But then the RINOs disregard that in a recent poll, the top 4 Republican candidates all beat the Hildebeast. Anyone can beat her. So you should be happy.
Rudybots? How is that supposed to inform me of anything other than you are completely opposed to reason?
***That’s a form of straw argumentation. We freepers saw how little reason was used by tootyfruityrudybots in the end, and it was just another piece of baloney from them.
Red Herring I suppose you have enough knowlege of law school that you know this is a term used by first year law students. Should I assume you are one of the bad guys? ie: lawyers?
***No. It’s a classic use of an arguing/debating/reasoning term. It means you’re deflecting. Noticing a pattern yet?
Keep praying for our country. Election day is not Sunday school goers.
***I agree.
Please allow me to restate what I meant by being in the middle if one is not for Huckabee or Rudy. I simply meant to say that Huckabee is the social conservative I wish Rudy were, and that Huckabee were as strong on defense as I believe Rudy is. The two are in my estimation polls apart. I might have used McCain as an example of a RINO, but I doubt he has a snowball's chance in hell of being the candidate in 08. I did not mean to insult you or anyone else by intimating that he or she is a lukewarm republican.
If I believed that Huckabee would actually defend the country from radical Islam as he suggests on his website, he'd have my vote, despite the evidence that he is not a fiscal conservative. (To be sure if he is our candidate I will work hard for his ultimate victory, but I am skeptical of his chances of victory. And since the international media seems to like him more than Rudy, I suspect they agree with me that Rudy would make a more formidable candidate.)
I would like to mention that those who believe we send a message by voting for someone like Huckabee or Alan Keyes are putting the cart before the horse. In my opinion we first have to alter public opinion about abortion and gay marriage, then it will be possible to elect a social conservative once again. I consider President Bush to be the type of president who we need on social, and moral issues. On fiscal matters, immigration, and communication skills, he was not my favorite. He kept his word to me when he appointed Chief Justice Roberts, and Justice Alito, which was the main reason I voted for him. My judgment of Rudy is that he is more electable than Huckabee, and despite my religious convictions being more akin to those expressed by Huckabee, my belief is that Rudy will appoint conservative justices if he has the opportunity to do so. Huckabee's history of pardoning criminals shows he is merciful, but will he hold Muslims accountable for their transgressions, or will he be merciful?
I'd like to know your position on these issues:
1. Are homosexuals born that way or is it a learned behavior? 2. Is Islam a religion of peace and love? 3. What is wrong with capitalism?
I might have used McCain as an example of a RINO, but I doubt he has a snowball’s chance in hell of being the candidate in 08.
***Then you could make a bunch of money if you short McCain at Intrade and you’re right.
McCain now leads for nomination on INTRADE PREDICTION MARKETS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1947615/posts
My judgment of Rudy is that he is more electable than Huckabee,
***Then your judgement is off. Rudy splits the GOP socon base, Huckster doesn’t. With Rudy, guys like JimRob will be going 3rd party. With Huckster, they’ll just be mad.
and despite my religious convictions being more akin to those expressed by Huckabee, my belief is that Rudy will appoint conservative justices if he has the opportunity to do so.
***If you honestly believe that rudy would go against his own convictions on the most important choices he has as president, then you are deluded.
Huckabee’s history of pardoning criminals shows he is merciful, but will he hold Muslims accountable for their transgressions, or will he be merciful?
***Probably both, like the average flipflopper.
I’d like to know your position on these issues:
***Why?
1. Are homosexuals born that way or is it a learned behavior?
***It’s probably a combination of both.
2. Is Islam a religion of peace and love?
***No. Just look at its founder.
3. What is wrong with capitalism?
***Plenty, but it’s the best system we’ve got.
Basically, its a wide open race, with the lead changing on a weekly basis. Might as well support the truest conservative, Hunter.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1922961/posts
According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1938773/posts
Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts
wow, Ok your a guy who can’t loose an argument. That’s probably a good thing and very burdensome. I’m not that way about intellectual discussions only my court cases. Perhaps you are brighter than I am, dispite my large ego and outstanding academic credentials, which don’t mean that I’m smart, just a hard worker, and in case you haven’t notice, even an eight grader can spell better than I can.
The reason I asked the questions I did is becasue of my trial experience in sizing up an individual.
I’ll check out your links, thanks. I don’t know who is going to win the nomination, but I’m ok with any one of them with the exception of Dr. Paul. But I’ll hold my nose and vote for him if he is our candidate.
I shouda gone into law ;-)
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