Classroom Incident Sparks First Amendment Debate (Bible ripped up, "stupid little minds")

Channel 3000 ^ | 12/24/07

[LibWhacker]

Incident Occurred Two Weeks Ago

JANESVILLE, Wis. -- A classroom incident at a Janesville high school two weeks ago is raising some concerns about freedom of speech and school safety.

Some Janesville parents said that they're concerned that in this incident, in which a student allegedly tore pages from a Bible, the balance between the two was tipped toward the First Amendment, WISC-TV reported.

As many Parker High School students get ready for Christmas break, junior Elle Jacobson is at home and will not be returning like her friends.

"I have never felt threatened like that in a classroom before," said Jacobson.

The 17-year-old is talking about an incident in her English class two weeks ago during a class presentation.

"This boy got up and his visual aid was a Bible and a book. And he got up and started his speech by saying 'Now, this piece of crap' and pointed to the Bible."

Jacobson said that she quickly felt threatened.

"He took the Bible and he said, 'I'm going to do this because I can. I'm going to do something that your stupid, little minds aren't going to be able to comprehend and he took the Bible and started ripping out pages."

School officials said that they know about the incident.

"We take this extremely seriously," said Dr. Karen Schulte, Janesville School District safety and security coordinator.

Officials said that they will not confirm whether the boy was suspended.

"We do an assessment of this situation and students involved to ensure the safety of every student and staff at that school," said Schulte.

Officials said that ripping up a Bible is constitutionally protected, adding the punishment has nothing to do with the student's Freedom of Speech demonstration.

"Any actions that were taken in this case were because of behavior separate from the Bible," said Parker High Principal Dale Carlson.

Some parents said that they disagree with the school's reaction.

"The school worries about his right to privacy and to free speech that to teachers' rights or the students' right to safety," said Paul Jacobson, Elle’s father.

He said that he's pulling his two high school daughters out of Parker High.

"It's not about free speech. It's not about necessarily about the Bible although that was disgusting, too. This is about the vicious, vile manner in the way this kid went about this and tried to make some kind of point," he said.

Elle Jacobson's parents are looking for another school for their daughters.

Parker High School officials aren't saying whether the student who sparked the controversy is back at school.

In a separate incident, following the punishment, three Parker High Students wore T-shirts asking for the student in question to be brought back after a punishment was levied against him. School officials made those students change clothes.

[CondorFlight]

Just be glad he didn’t rip up a Koran. . .

Otherwise, yes, he has the free speech to rip up a bible in school; AND OTHER STUDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO READ THEIR BIBLES IN SCHOOL.

[rovenstinez]

Fortunately for all of us it wasn’t a Koran!

[inkling]

Funny that he didn’t do that with a Quran.

[TexasCajun]

Probably got the idea at home from daddy & daddy.

[R. Scott]

"He took the Bible and he said, 'I'm going to do this because I can. I'm going to do something that your stupid, little minds aren't going to be able to comprehend and he took the Bible and started ripping out pages."

At least he did this stupid, idiotic stunt here in the USA. If he had done it in Saudi Arabia with a Koran the outcome would have been far different.

[Past Your Eyes]

Well, okay, just as long as it wasn’t a Koran.
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[vpintheak]

Rosie O’donnel, are you watching us fundamentalist Christians rioting and killing in the street because of this? This kid is one sick puppy.

[DejaJude]

Sounds like the next candidate to start shooting people in churches.

[arderkrag]

Was the Bible issued by the school?
Was anyone actually threatened by his actions?
Was he punished for being disruptive?

These are the questions that need to be asked.

[JRios1968]

...yes, he has the free speech to rip up a bible in school; AND OTHER STUDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO READ THEIR BIBLES IN SCHOOL. BEAT HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH THEIR BIBLES.

Hey, it's Freedom of Speech for all, or for none at all.

[MNJohnnie]

Actually as a minor child at a public school you don’t have any 1st Amendment rights. You are subject to the authority of the school. These “school officials” should be fired. They obviously are too gutless to do their job.

[MediaMole]

Is kicking an atheist jackass in the stones protected speech?

[Sopater]

Although I think that this kid is a fool, I do think he has a constitutional right to tear up a bible or a koran or whatever he wants to do, as long as it's his book. If it were a teacher, I would feel differently about the situation.

"It's not about free speech. It's not about necessarily about the Bible although that was disgusting, too. This is about the vicious, vile manner in the way this kid went about this and tried to make some kind of point," he said.

Elle Jacobson's parents are looking for another school for their daughters.

I would do the same thing for this and many other reasons. God bless America where we are free.

[AndyTheBear]

Although we have a protected right to express opinions, there is no protected right to unlimited vulgarity.

The boy should not be punished for expressing negative opinions about the bible. But the boy ought to be punished for being overtly vulgar while doing so.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

After reading these comments i've never seen so many scared of a Koran.

"This boy got up and his visual aid was a Bible and a book.

Was the other Book a Koran ?

[JennysCool]

Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!

[inkling]

Atheism is just a phase of adolescence. He’ll grow out of it.

[inkling]

ROTFL!!!

[Larry Lucido]

You kidding? He probably LOVES the koran!