Exactly how Reaganesque is Romney? [Mitt Romney is NOT a Republican]

Deseret News ^ | 12/25/07 | Me

[Mobile Vulgus]

It never ceases to amaze me how a person who has decided to support a candidate all too often arrives at a point where FACTS are meaningless to them. Such is true with those who support this Romney character. There has been one example after another that proves that Mitt Romney isn't even a Republican much less a conservative and that he has repeatedly lied about his positions. Yet, well meaning Republicans still support this flip-flopping liar. Here is yet another article that shows that Mitt Romney is the single worse candidate the GOP field has today.

David Lightman of the McClatchy Newspaper chain asks this question: Exactly how Reaganesque is Romney? And the answer is a decided NOT AT ALL.

A few excerpts of this article:

"I take inspiration from the strength Ronald Reagan talked about," Romney said. "It was his view that the right way to overcome challenges was for the country to strengthen itself."

Yet Romney wasn't always such a Reagan fan.

In 1994, when he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, he said, "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."

And...

Romney spent years in the state registered as "unenrolled," or unaffiliated with a political party, and in 1992 he voted for former Sen. Paul Tsongas, a liberal Democrat, in the Massachusetts Democratic presidential primary.

And...

Romney replied: "Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush. My positions don't talk about the things you suggest they talk about. This isn't a political issue."

Romney has lied about being a hunter, he has lied about his not supporting the baby killers at Planned Parenthood, he even lied about his father marching with Martin Luther King, Jr. He led as Governor of Massachusetts as a center left executive yet now claims that he is a conservative.

Yet, all these flip-flops, all these lies and his supporters stick their fingers in their ears and scream "LA LA LA" at the top of their voices. So, here is the thing. Romney is not Reagan, he is far more like Clinton. Because during the first Clinton run lie after lie was revealed and his supporters simply refused to take stock of their man. They voted for him despite the lies, the rapes, all his past troubles were ignored.

Mitt Romney is Bill Clinton without the sex crimes.

[ansel12]

If you gave Gollum nice hair and put him in a suit, you would have Mitt Romney.

[Bigh4u2]

“I would rather have a half-hearted ally in the presidency”

I’m not willing to sacrifice Conservatism to make that choice.

Sometimes, you need to fight for what’s right.

Not settle for what you can get.

[sazerac]

If somebody is not as conservative as me that means they are not a republican. *rolls eyes*

[Bigh4u2]

You don’t have to be a Republican, to be a conservative.

Zell Miller.

[Andy'smom]

That’s the way I see it too.

[Andy'smom]

True, but Zell Miller isn’t running and there are hardly any conservative democrats on the national leval anymore.

[Diogenesis]

The thread concerns Romney, not Reagan.

THE PROPAGANDA:

THE REAL DEAL:

"Look, I was an Independent during the time of Reagan/Bush.
I am not trying to return to Reagan/Bush."
(Mitt Romney, 1994 Senate Debate, Boston, MA, 10/25/94)

"I wasn't a Ronald Reagan conservative."
(Mitt Romney In Interview with Marc Ambinder,
"Romney Explains Himself," National Journal, 2/9/07)

"I'm very clear I think, to the people across the Commonwealth -
my "R" didn't stand so much for Republican as it does for reform."
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race."
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"Hillary Clinton is Very Much Right, It Does Take A Village, And We Are A Village
And We Need To Work Together In A Non-Skeptical, Non-Finger-Pointing Way..."
(Romney, "For City Problems, Future Solutions," The Boston Globe, 3/1/98)

"I'm not convinced that a state would be better off with all Republicans.
As a matter of fact, I've been in a state like that for the last three years.
It's not a good thing."
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

"I've lived in a place that has had one party state that was primarily Republican.
I thought well won't that be nice? The answer is no."
(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)

[Bigh4u2]

You’re right.

But I was just making a point.

That’s all.

[org.whodat]

If he is the nominee I’ll vote for Romney.

Zombie voter!

[Revolting cat!]

Beat your head against the brick wall. Go on! You'll be doing it until we drop this insane two (or rather one and a half) party system. As someone noted above, Murry Mom could run for president as a Republican, she'd get contributors and votes, dude.

In multi-party systems, party members pay membership fees which gives them the right to vote (without the taxpayers funding the stupid primaries) for their candidates. If a candidate, elected or otherwise, crosses the line outside the party line, he is simply kicked out of the party even if he holds an office. In our stupid system Murry Mom is a Republican!

[Bigh4u2]

book mark...

Bed time...4 AM comes early.

Night all and Merry Christmas...

[Eagles6]

The funny thing is that Conservativism isn’t dying. Voters have said again and again that they support it. It appears that the RNC listens to the DNC/MSM pollsters as to what America wants.

[Mobile Vulgus]

I love those “multi party” types. First they complain that we get presidents that not everyone wants with two major parties, but if we had a dozen parties we’d have a president that even FEWER want because the votes would be spread over even MORE candidates! So, instead of a president that got 50% plus in office, we’d have a president that could get less than 20% of the vote as president! How is that better?

[Revolting cat!]

OH? You love Murry Mom as a rRepublican? You love your taxes going to pay for intra-party elections that are of no interest to you? You like compassionate conservatism that has more to do with the RAT party platform that your own party platform? Compromise is the way of politics, true. But what you are seeing and accepting here is milquetoast and an illusion of differences between parties. Good luck! Hug Murry Mom from me!

[TheLion]

I say you are a jerk for posting this useless dribble from a Mitt hater, who is obviously supporting someone else.

[Neu Pragmatist]

Amen to post 43 .

[Neu Pragmatist]

Mitt is a flip-flopping Liberal , is this what you really want for a nominee ? For goodness sake , he tried to out-Liberal Teddy Kennedy ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI

[curiosity]

In 1994, when he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, he said, "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."

Romney is his own man. He's not a Reagan clone. I don't see why you would take such offense at that.

Romney spent years in the state registered as "unenrolled," or unaffiliated with a political party,

He was not politically active before the early 1990's. He was focused on his career in the private equity business.

and in 1992 he voted for former Sen. Paul Tsongas, a liberal Democrat, in the Massachusetts Democratic presidential primary.

MA has an open primary system, so you can choose which primary you want to vote in. The GOP primary was uncontested that year, since G HW Bush was running for re-election. The Democratic primary was a more interesting contest, so he, like many other MA Republicans, voted in the the more intersting primary contest.

Romney replied: "Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush. My positions don't talk about the things you suggest they talk about. This isn't a political issue."

Yeah, he's his own man. Apparently you would only be staisfied with a Reagan clone.

Romney has lied about being a hunter,

Nope. He only got a hunting liscence twice in his life, but he hunted small game in Utah many times with his son's gun where you don't need a liscence.

That he has lied about his not supporting the baby killers at Planned Parenthood,

His wife once sent them a check. He never did.

he even lied about his father marching with Martin Luther King, Jr.

He was a teenager at the time, and he remembers his Dad marching with him. Some historians say his Dad did march, others don't. At worst he's guilty of a faulty memory.

Why are you so concerned about the ability of a man to remember unimportant details about events that occurred when he was a teenager?

He led as Governor of Massachusetts as a center left executive yet now claims that he is a conservative.

False. I lived in MA at the time. He governed as a fiscal conservative, forcing a democratic legislature to cut spending by over 1.5 billion. On social issues, he did everything in his power to fight gay marraige. In my book, that is conservative.

In 1994, when he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, he said, "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush."

Yet, all these flip-flops, all these lies and his supporters stick their fingers in their ears and scream "LA LA LA" at the top of their voices.

Well, I've answered you point by point, and others have as well. This "flip-floper" label is not justified. When you look at it carefully, it becomes obvious that he really only changed his position on one issue: abortion. That's it. Period. On everything else, he's always been a solid conservative.

[Dan Middleton]

"And WHY is that do you think? It's because he has NO RECORD of political interest before that!!!"

Exactly how did you interpret my post wishing for something NEWER than 1994 to indicate a desire for something BEFORE that? Just curious.

[Neu Pragmatist]

Are you dizzy from that spin ? I am ....