Posted on 12/25/2007 2:34:26 PM PST by Brices Crossroads
Romney:
When Romney took office in 2003, under the law in Massachusetts, enacted by the Massachusetts Supreme Court in Moe v. Secretary of Admin.& Finance, 382 Mass. 629, 417 N.E.2d 387 (Mass. 1981), the taxpayers of Massachusetts were forced to subsidize ONLY abortions performed on Medicaid eligible women. In 2003, there were 4,859 publicly funded abortions in Massachusetts, according to the Massachusetts Citizens for Life. link
In 2003, there were 25,741 total abortions performed in Massachusetts. link
Post-RomneyCare, the state forces every Massachusetts taxpayer to fund every abortion performed on any Massachusetts resident for a very modest $50 copay. Thus, under Romney Care, the number of abortions that will be funded on the backs of the taxpaying citizens of Massachusetts will be at least 500% more than the number when he took office (approx. 25,000 versus 5,000).
Romney's answer to this is as predictable as it is disingenuous: The Courts made me do it. The Court in Moe did no such thing. The court did not require the legislature to subsidize health care. In finding that the state had to cover abortions for Medicaid eligible women in the same way it covered child bearing, the Court was explicit that: "... the legislature need not subsidize any of the costs associated with child bearing or with health care generally. Once it chooses to enter the Constitutionally protected area of choice, it must do so with genuine indifference." This is Massachusetts double speak which is translated: "If you do not want to have universal funding of abortion on demand, then do not pass a universal and mandatory health care program." Romney could have avoided this five fold increase in publicly funded abortions which was put across on his watch and with his enthusiastic support, by vetoing the whole plan. Instead, he chose to sacrifice the lives of unborn children (and to require the taxpayers of Massachusetts to pay for it) on the altar of compulsory, yes socialized, health care. All the bromides about an unpassable Constitutional Human Life Amendment cannot conceal the fact that, when he could have done something to prevent an increase in abortion, Romney not only did nothing. He actually cooperated with it. At the signing ceremony attended by Ted Kennedy, in April 2006 (after his supposed conversion to a prolife position), the mood was ebullient, according to the news reports:
"Mostly, however, the tone was congratulatory. 'This isn't 100 percent of what anyone in this room wanted,' Mr. Romney said. 'But the differences between us are small.' Mr. Kennedy said, 'You may well have fired the shot heard round the world on health care in America. I hope so.'" link
I guess there were not any unborn children in the room, because I daresay their differences with all the celebrants there would have been rather more than "small". Here's hoping that this "shot" Kennedy predicted is heard at least as far as Iowa, where Romney has more or less successfully reinvented himself as a prolife zealot.
Huckabee:
Apparently, according to the documents below, Mike Huckabee took $35,000 in honoraria from a major embryonic stem cell research firm, Novo Nordisk, in late 2006 and early 2007. Earlier this year, Mitt Romney got substantial flack for owning stock in the same firm, and he divested himself of it. See the article below, with links to the documents and websites:
"The Cooler has obtained documents that show Mike Huckabee received $378,000 in consulting fees during 2006, while he was still governor of Arkansas. Most noteworthy, $35,000 came from Novo Nordisk, one of the world's largest embryonic stem cell researchers. It seems that when money is at stake Huckabee may be able to look past his supposedly fervent opposition to this procedure."
There is no doubt that Romney's divergence from the prolife position in RomneyCare is far more serious from a policy standpoint and has graver consequences for the unborn. Huckabee, however, is guilty of real hubris in taking this cash from a company that traffics in human embryos for research, while railing against embryonic stem cell research and even showing pictures of children who were once frozen embryos to try to tug at the heartstrings of his supporters. link
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My conclusion after looking into this and other matters is that Romney habitually violated any pro-life and pro-family beliefs he may have had in order to “get along to go along” in Massachusetts. Then, if pressed, he would blame it on someone else. “The Democrats made me do it.” “The Mass. Supreme Court made me do it.” “Other people twisted my mandatory government-dictated health plan.” And so forth.
Huckabee, in contrast, did it for the money. He is clearly a corrupt, hypocritical, money-grubbing pig of a politician. Whether that’s better or worse than doing it for popularity and political convenience, I leave it to others to decide.
“Blah, blah, blah, 3 percent, blah, blah, Fred sucks, blah, blah, Mitt is a beautiful man, yada, yada, yada...”
You may now carry on exploring the truth behind the legend...
“Whether that’s better or worse than doing it for popularity and political convenience, I leave it to others to decide.”
Hopefully, the voters in Iowa will choose neither. They have a third option, one that is reliable, principled and conservative, Fred Thompson.
I have great faith that the Iowa GOP caucus voters are paying attention to this. They are very conservative. and I do not believe they will be going out en masse on a cold night to spend three hours caucusing for liberals. It is counterintuitive. that said, I am glad the polls are what they are now. Fred’s big day is going to be even bigger in light of push polls like ARG.
Well you know what I have said all along, the lower Fred’s polls the better I feel.
If he was really at 3% I would expect him to win the damn thing outright.
Thank you for posting this. You better believe I’ll do what I can to spread this info far and wide, and I hope other Freepers join with me.
I am allowing this thread to develop. I don’t want to be caught later to find out that there’s not more to this story about Huckabee than what’s reported here. Was he aware of who was giving him the money? Why did they give him the money?
the huck is a tax raising anti-smoking nazi...
.....ron paul is weird
darn
This post is a dishonest attempt at a smear.
Taxpayers fund the insurance premiums, not the insurance copays.
It’d be like saying *you* personally fund abortions because you pay an insurance premium every month to an insurance company that covers abortions.
Taxpayers don’t fund the abortions either under Romney’s health care plan.
Exactly.
Not being in Iowa , I wonder how Fred’s ground game is there . I hope he is running ads and mailouts , as those can make quite a difference .
Oh boy, I’ll soon need dramamine to read this thread!
says I
Here , I pulled this up just for you, and it’s from the Dims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMdK0TWtks&feature=related
We now know what they are going to use against Romney in the unfortunate instance he wins the nomination .
Do we really want this flip-flopper representing us ?
The Dims will shred him and / or we will be sold out to Romney’s true beliefs ....
Actually, there is more to this. I'm publishing a story tonight on this subject, which, when it goes up, I will repost here. It doesn't address the money issue directly - someone else will have to do that. But, it does address Huckabee's egregious position vis a vis stem cells.
(Think of it as being a man or two down in a flag football game and the other team loans you a player...)
“Yeah, you stupid 3 perceters loving that CFR freak idiot Fred Thompson instead of that beautiful Mitt Romney. When is Fred going to drop out anyways? Mitt is the real Conservative you know. He says so, just listen to him, don’t look at his record it may distract you from how Conservative Mitt really is, I promise. You are a bunch of 3 percenter idiots on Free Republic, where is Fred, at like -300%...”
How did I do? I want to help. I really do. It is only fair....
LOL ! You just like to argue don’t you ? :)
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