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PINT OF BEER COULD HIT £4 NEXT YEAR (Because of alternate energy)
(UK) Daily Express ^ | December 24, 2007

Posted on 12/24/2007 11:04:32 AM PST by Zakeet

The average price of a pint of bitter in Britain's pubs could increase from around £2.20 to as much as £4 next year, the industry has warned.

The massive hike, which is also expected to affect cans bought from off licences, is due largely to increased prices of key ingredients barley and hops - in part because farmland is being turned over to environment-friendly biofuels.

But brewers are also suffering from rises in fuel costs and the price of the metals used to produce kegs and cans. Kegs are now so valuable that they have become a target for thieves, who stole 60 million this year to melt down for their metal.

Mark Hastings, director of communications at the British Beer and Pub Association, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Food prices have increased dramatically and that has affected, for us, the price of barley and hops, which have rocketed tremendously.

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Mr Hastings said the price hike came against a general decline in British beer sales, with some 14 million fewer pints a day being served in pubs than in the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailyexpress.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: agw; alternateenergy; inflation; taxationbeer
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To: Zakeet

Malting barley topped $5 a bushel this year and is looking at $6. A bushel of barley is about 48 pounds.

One pound of barley makes about a gallon of beer, so a bushel of barley will make roughly 50 gallons - 400 pints.

So one pint of beer has about 1.2 cents worth of barley in it.

If they’re saying rising barley prices are going to drive a pint up $3.60, either they expect barley to be selling for $1,800 a bushel or they’re full of s—t.


21 posted on 12/24/2007 11:56:56 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: CGTRWK
I read that hops are going to get much more expensive and will not only affect commercial brewers but home brewers as well.
22 posted on 12/24/2007 12:03:46 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: frogjerk

Hops at $15 a pound are a few pennies a bottle.

The cost of beer is in the taxes, the capital equipment, the labor, and the distribution. On a personal drinking scale, the raw ingredients are so cheap as to be essentially free.

A $4 price hike at the tap may well happen, but that isn’t because of biofuels and farmers aren’t going to see but a few pennies of it.


23 posted on 12/24/2007 12:14:03 PM PST by CGTRWK
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To: CGTRWK
Just seeing what the traffic will bear. I remember when the pint hit a pound. "Never going to buy it at that price" some howled. Maybe they did not. Private enterprise has given us much choice and availability. The rest is in the hands of the consumers.

Ontario's LCBO has scads of English beers. I notice a real eye catcher for the usual suspects. It is a whopping plastic bottle of Wells Ale. I have had no luck in the measure though. I have my supplies in for the visitors tomorrow, cannot be bothered to go down and check. The price? $8.95 Canadian dollars. Has to be 40 ounces but I stand to be corrected.

I would think that they have an eye on a certain customer. Why not? (laughs).Premium English beers 500 ml (16 oz up) are only $2.25 and as high as $3.45 Canadian. Halve that and you get the value in pounds.

Neither here nor there but Marstons brewed a "Pedigree" beer for $3.45.(1.7 pounds sterling). The store sold em' all out, once the tasters got to work. Bottom line - they cannot ship this stuff to Ontario for even less than store price and NOT make a profit.

24 posted on 12/24/2007 12:38:46 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: bill1952

We don’t plant all the arable land in the US now, so your concern is invalid with respect to a rise in the price of food. We pay farmers now not to plant crops. Further, non-food crops will end up making biofuels - they are more efficient (e.g. switchgrass). Stop the Malthusian BS, it just isn’t going to work out like that.


25 posted on 12/24/2007 12:45:32 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: theDentist
"The average price of a pint of bitter in Britain's pubs"

A Pint eh....the euronazis will have your hide.

Supposed to be all metric these days as dictated by the EEC directorate.

26 posted on 12/24/2007 1:05:07 PM PST by spokeshave (Hey GOP...NO money till border closed and criminal illegals deported)
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To: Zakeet
fuel costs

All commodities are getting more expensive. Even chocolate.

27 posted on 12/24/2007 1:07:49 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Zakeet

Wow, I’d have to greatly curtail my drinking at £4 (nearly $8 USD per beer).


28 posted on 12/24/2007 1:10:34 PM PST by rb22982
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To: RKV
>We don’t plant all the arable land in the US now, so your concern is invalid with respect to a rise in the price of food

LOL! I'll have to tell my broker and investment firms that chestnut.

You are absolutely uninformed as to the US commodities market.

It has made me rather well off, - as you might note in my homepage - and you would be very wise indeed to shed the thinking encapsulated in your last post like a dead skin.

The price of food is going to climb dramatically in the coming years and all of your uniformed thinking isn’t going to change that one bit.

I suggest that you study investments rather quickly before reality slams into you like a bull market going long in wheat. - my current positions, leveraged in LEAPS.

29 posted on 12/24/2007 1:21:53 PM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: bill1952

I was raised on a farm. I’ve heard this crap from brokers before. Cover your downside and don’t do commodities on borrowed money.


30 posted on 12/24/2007 1:28:05 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: devolve

31 posted on 12/24/2007 1:28:41 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: Zakeet

32 posted on 12/24/2007 1:46:27 PM PST by matt1234
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To: knews_hound

Not at my house. Malted barley prices haven’t moved in years at the brewing supply store.


33 posted on 12/24/2007 1:48:49 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: CGTRWK
That one pound per gallon ratio is inaccurate, unless you like drinking beer that's roughly 2% alcohol. It takes more like a kilo of barley per gallon of average strength (~5.5% ABV) beer, or roughly twelve pounds per five gallons at average efficiency of usage.

Add to that that not all barley is suitable for brewing. Pricing for those varieties is now on the order of $1.50 a pound retail. Even adding in the fact that large brewers will get bulk rate discounts, you're looking at a pretty steep increase in barley prices.

So adding it all together, and loooking at it from a percentage standpoint, if your costs increase roughly 30-40%, then your prices are going to follow suit. Hardly seems out of line to me.

34 posted on 12/24/2007 1:57:06 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: ASA Vet

LOL, I went to Beeston Castle’s gift shop and bought a bottle of mead for a fiver as I’d never tried it, and it was really good! I split the bottle with my sister and we got a nice little buzz going on just a few glasses as I think it’s 14% alcohol, but it was a nice buzz nonetheless! It’s really sweet, but I quite liked it...the anti-fun brigade has called for prices of alcohol to be raised to keep it out of the hands of idiot hoodie yobs and teenagers who just drink to get violent and wreak havoc on the decent people who enjoy social drinking. So, it may not be just the price of barley and hops, it may also be the nanny state allowing a few bad apples to spoil to whole bunch...that’s how they “solve” things: ban it from everyone! A-holes...


35 posted on 12/24/2007 1:58:05 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: Allegra

Ping!


36 posted on 12/24/2007 1:58:47 PM PST by wazoo1031
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To: NormsRevenge; glock rocks

Your problem has been cured. You will no longer be able to drink unless you come up with a cheap way to convert ethanol to suds..


38 posted on 12/24/2007 2:11:31 PM PST by tubebender (Lost another one to the Tag Line bandit...)
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To: RKV

“I want an organization of food exporting countries.”

OFEC. I can only imagine how that would be mispronounced!

:)


39 posted on 12/24/2007 2:22:48 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: knews_hound
Well, you could always Brew Your Own....

I might have to start if this sort of thing keeps up.

40 posted on 12/24/2007 6:19:36 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Don't panic, folks. Rush Babies Will Save America.)
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