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Bush Signs Automobile Fatality Act
Ayn Rand Institute ^ | 12/21/07

Posted on 12/22/2007 3:22:32 PM PST by bruinbirdman

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1 posted on 12/22/2007 3:22:34 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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I’m sure that we could counteract the ill effects of lightweight vehicles by banning large trucks from the national roadway system and imposing a national speed limit of (say) 30 miles per hour and requiring the manufacture of vehicles with devices that forbid them from exceeding this national speed limit. Let us be as realistic as the Congress and ignore the economic maladies that these measures might cause.


2 posted on 12/22/2007 3:27:26 PM PST by dufekin (Name the leader of our enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, terrorist dictator)
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The latest estimates are this will lead to about 4,000 more deaths per year....or more than the number of American soldiers killed in Iraq. Of course these will include mothers and children.


3 posted on 12/22/2007 3:31:33 PM PST by Always Right
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To: bruinbirdman

More blood for oil. More Americans will die annually due to this law than have died in the entire Iraq war.


4 posted on 12/22/2007 3:38:08 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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“Clearly, what they value is something other than human well-being.””

Quite correct.


5 posted on 12/22/2007 3:38:32 PM PST by devere
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Bush's fault.
6 posted on 12/22/2007 3:38:42 PM PST by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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I’m not for this nonsense of government telling automakers what to make. But it seems to me that if they have hybrid technology perfected by 2020, there will be no problem and no increase in deaths.

However, I don’t see that happening. What I see happening is the wealthy will give up their current flavor of SUV in favor of “one ton” versions and larger that don’t have to comply to any of these CAFE standards.

Say hello to the new freightliner SUV...powered by caterpillar, cummins, and detroit diesel...and getting 6 miles per gallon.

7 posted on 12/22/2007 3:40:40 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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I’m in the trucking industry. Don’t give them any ideas.


8 posted on 12/22/2007 3:41:00 PM PST by Big E
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If the automakers could produce a 50mpg SUV, the whacko’s would still be angry and want them off the roads.


9 posted on 12/22/2007 3:42:08 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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This will result in more miles driven per person, and more congestion, along with higher death tolls.


10 posted on 12/22/2007 3:45:02 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Fred Thompson's Federalism is right on.)
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Hybrids only save fuel under particular circumstances, where there is a lot of idling.

I think that they are going to have to rely more and more on diesel to meet this regulation.


11 posted on 12/22/2007 3:48:04 PM PST by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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Say hello to the new freightliner SUV...powered by caterpillar, cummins, and detroit diesel...and getting 6 miles per gallon.

Don't forget pickup trucks.


12 posted on 12/22/2007 3:49:47 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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Some research will find:

Cars today are HEAVIER than back in the 60s and 70s. So govt. fuel economy rules did NOT result in lighter vehicles.

Cars today have more power than back in the 60s and 70s.

Cars today are far safer than back in the 60s and 70s. Most of the safety features were NOT govt. mandated, like ABS, disc brakes,

Cars today pollute much less than back in the 60s and 70s.

Cars today get better gas mileage than back in the 60s and 70s.

These results have been due to some government regulation and to a free market.

I believe the future will be similar. My preference for my future vehicle is a high end turbo-diesel station wagon. Maybe soon in the US.

Turbo diesel alone gives substantial improvements in fuel economy. That is why 50% of new vehicles sales in Europe are now diesels. Where gas is over $6.00 per gallon.


13 posted on 12/22/2007 3:51:02 PM PST by truth_seeker
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One off-shoot of higher mileage vehicles is that the states are taking in fewer dollars in gasoline taxes, and they've been talking about basing taxes on the number of miles driven, rather than the amount of gasoline consumed. And of course, there would be a higher surcharge on vehicles that got lower gas mileage numbers.

So any thought of saving some money on gasoline to offset the higher cost of a new vehicle is out the window, as you'll be paying more in "mileage taxes."

Mark

14 posted on 12/22/2007 3:56:39 PM PST by MarkL
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Oh sure, you just had to go sticking a bunch of facts up in the middle of a nice witch hunt.


15 posted on 12/22/2007 3:58:11 PM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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I’m not sure what his first “fact” means if the rules haven’t been changed since 1975.


16 posted on 12/22/2007 3:58:51 PM PST by John W
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To: mamelukesabre
If they are using diesel they won't get 6 miles to the gallon but more. Diesel would be one solution they could turn to in order to obtain the necessary mileage. VW rabbits get 45 miles per with diesel. Regular sized SUVs, which, BTW, have been dowsized since they were originally introduced, could achieve 35 mpg with diesel engines. You make is sound as if diesel is somehow a fuel hog.

The government needs to stay out of private enterprise. The free market would take care of this is it's own way. This is a law that is designed to apease one special interest group and to garner votes. Bush should be horse whipped for signing it. Not veto proof? So what, he should stand by what he believes and veto all such nonsense bills that come across his desk.

The government needs to get the hell out of the banning business. The constitution gives them no powers, and certainly no rights, to ban or regulate anything.

Bring back the constitution, bring back freedom and we can drill for oil HERE and become energy dependent. When we actually run out of oil an alternative will be invented, until then we need to do what is best for the people in this country and quit worrying about the GD greenies and their ilk.

17 posted on 12/22/2007 4:04:31 PM PST by calex59
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I disagree. A hybrid powertrain allows a smaller internal combustion engine for the same peak power output. That alone translates to a superior fuel economy figure.

Personally, I think the CV transmission is the next big thing. This transmission keeps an engine at constant RPMs. So an engine design can be optimized for only one speed. The use of a CV transmission with a small diesel engine and lightweight automobile construction should give us some amazing fuel economy figures. The next step after that would be hybrid tech. But there’s some research work to do before a compression ignition engine can be used in a hybrid powertrain.

18 posted on 12/22/2007 4:10:49 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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"Say hello to the new freightliner SUV...powered by caterpillar, cummins, and detroit diesel...and getting 6 miles per gallon."

We won't have to worry about that once we get the new "John Galt "Kinetic Energy Engine" technology" going.

19 posted on 12/22/2007 4:14:35 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Another example of government trying to micro-manage the free market. More dollars down a rat hole.


20 posted on 12/22/2007 4:15:14 PM PST by gpapa (My idea of gun control is a good, steady aim)
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