Posted on 12/22/2007 6:28:02 AM PST by lowbridge
Sen. Charles Schumer and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy's previously stalled bill toughening the national gun background check system in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings sailed through both chambers of Congress within hours yesterday after a flurry of legislative activity.
"I don't know whether to laugh or to cry," said McCarthy (D-Mineola), who saw her legislation pass the House in June only to have it blocked in the Senate. "You don't know how many times it's come to this point."
In a statement, Schumer (D-N.Y.) said, "This simple but very important bill has been a long time coming. It will prevent gun sales to people who have no right to own one because of mental infirmity. This legislation will save lives."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...
I have a great deal of difficulty in re-joining the NRA. More of our gun rights down the tube and the NRA was complicite in this!
In a statement, Schumer (D-N.Y.) said, “This simple but very important bill has been a long time coming. It will prevent gun sales to people who have no right to own one because of mental infirmity. This legislation will save lives.”
Shumer you arrogant A$$, If I’m not mistaken obnoxious and illegal gun law already contributes substantially to death of common citizens, based on the numerous restrictions to gun purchases, waiting periods, and the general opinion of our news media, public servants, and local bureaucrats, ,that guns in the hands of the people on the front line of life, are the worst possible scenario.
Reality just might indicate, that faulty law, and gun free zones play a major role in the success of those bent on taking as many people with them when they have a suicidal urge. What a travesty, and mizz McCarthy who has made a career pandering to anti-gun nuts would have been rendered jobless if New York had not been dancing to the anti-gun orchestra for years.
Had anyone on that train been armed, or had the wisdom and courage of those aboard flight 93, Her husband and son might be alive today
That bastard NEVER saw a gun-control law he didn't like.
Maybe, but with the NRA cheering the bill on, maybe not as well. As it is, everyone has "cover". The thing was passed without objection, just like the original Brady Bill. The President is a lame duck, so he has no incentive not to sign it. The original Brady Bill was passed under B.J. Clinton, and he was getting what he wanted, in more ways than one.
“it won’t take a shrink and a judge (to end your gun rights)”
How about when they ID every FReeper by name & address? I mean, joining this website means you’re a menace to yourself and to society, isn’t that right?
I said, ISN’T THAT RIGHT, COMRADE!!?
Oh, THAT'S right, he doesn't NEED his OWN guns, he's got his OWN body guards and security detail, and lives in a private gated community with 24/7/365 security.
and the NRA was complicite in this!
Just one more reason I choose not to
be a member. Complicit certainly seems
to describe the NRA. 1968 gun control
law comes to mind. There is more.
If all 80 million gunowners joined the NRA, we wouldn’t have to compromise.
McCarthy, 54, spent most of her life as a nurse with no political ambitions. Then, in 1993, her husband was among six people killed during gunman Colin Ferguson's rampage on the Long Island Rail Road. Her son, shot in the head, was one of 19 wounded. While nursing him back from near-death, McCarthy began lobbying for gun control.
Her Washington aspirations took life after her congressman voted to repeal a ban on assault weapons. She was so mad she ran against him in 1996 and won his seat. This Sunday, her story is retold in a TV movie.
Well, if Hollywood thought it good enough for a TV movie, it must be Barf Alert material “fer sure.” Miz McCarthy goes to Washington to show those evil Second Amendment supporters "what for."
Scenario for justice? Lighting strikes twice. The son is gunned down directly in front of a former Concealed Carry Permit holder that had their government permit to exercise the Second Amendment pulled because he had no money to risk in an “appeal” when wrongly barred from carrying a firearm. His quote to her, "Sorry, I could have easily stopped that guy but the government took away my Second Amendment permit.
And here is how it will happen...
Negotiations had been ongoing to lift the block placed by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.). He had concerns that the legislation's new costs would not be offset by cuts in other programs and that it did not pay for successful appeals by veterans or other people who say they are wrongly barred from buying a gun.
This week Schumer and Coburn struck a deal: The government would pay for the cost of appeals by gun owners and prospective buyers who argue successfully in court that they were wrongly deemed unqualified for mental health reasons.
So, it one can not afford to loose all the monetary cost of mounting an appeal against a major government agency they loose their Government Permitted Second Amendment “Right.” They will run the risk of going into debt to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars for trying to hang on to their "unalienable" Second Amendment Right.
Yea, that is just great, huh? Thank you Chucky and Carolyn for that step closer to Second American Revolution. And may the appropriate share of spilt blood be on their heads.
Non-thinking scum like her makes me realize their actually can be a use for a public Singapore style caning.
From my cold, dead hands.....
Congress toughens background checks for gun buyers....but not on illegals!!!!
Even worse, in the Senate at least, it was passed "without objection", meaning without a vote at all. Of course that also means that if your Senator was on the floor, she should be fired for not objecting.
The House passed it under a voice vote suspension of the rules, and passed the earlier version by voice vote on June 13th. The Senate did it's "without objection" on December 19th, and then at 6:04 PM THE SAME DAY, Rep. McCarthy asked for acceptance of the Senate Amendment via Unanimous Consent, which she got. It's not clear how many representatives were even present. (The same is true in the Senate, and the only names that appear in the Congressional record on that issue are Scummy Schumer and Leaky Leahy, plus a "Madam President", so some female Senator was presiding. Although that same day Senators Byrd and Menendez did some of Kabuki dance over the funding for the war, so they may, or may not, have been present as well.
Where the H#)) were the Conservative Senators?
It was not anywhere near a majority last time. And it would not take a majority either.
FWIW, I just renewed for 5 years. I'm old enough that getting a Life membership at this point doesn't seem cost effective. Unless I live to 90 or so. Possible, my grandfather lived to 99. But there is Alzheimer's on my fathers side (a lot of it), so even though I might be alive, I'd likely not care about much of anything. :)
We don't NEED to compromise, we choose to.
I just renewed for 5 years.
What if you take thyroid medication?
I received this email from the NRA 2 days ago. Wish I hadn’t have renewed my membership.
Senate Passes NICS Improvement Act
After months of careful negotiation, pro-gun legislation was passed through Congress today. The National Rifle Association (NRA) worked closely with Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) to address his concerns regarding H.R. 2640, the National Instant Check System (NICS) Improvement Act. These changes make a good bill even better. The end product is a win for American gun owners.
The NICS Improvement Act does the following:
Permanently prohibits the FBI from charging a “user fee” for NICS checks.
Requires all federal agencies that impose mental health adjudications or commitments to provide a process for “relief from disabilities.” Extreme anti-gun groups like the Violence Policy Center and Coalition to Stop Gun Violence have expressed “strong concerns” over this aspect of the bill-surely a sign that it represents progress for gun ownership rights.
Prevents reporting of mental adjudications or commitments by federal agencies when those adjudications or commitments have been removed.
Requires removal of expired, incorrect or otherwise irrelevant records. Today, totally innocent people (e.g., individuals with arrest records, who were never convicted of the crime charged) are sometimes subject to delayed or denied firearm purchases because of incomplete records in the system.
Provides a process of error correction if a person is inappropriately committed or declared incompetent by a federal agency. The individual would have an opportunity to correct the error-either through the agency or in court.
Prevents use of federal “adjudications” that consist only of medical diagnoses without findings that the people involved are dangerous or mentally incompetent. This would ensure that purely medical records are never used in NICS. Gun ownership rights would only be lost as a result of a finding that the person is a danger to themselves or others, or lacks the capacity to manage his own affairs.
Improves the accuracy and completeness of NICS by requiring federal agencies and participating states to provide relevant records to the FBI. For instance, it would give states an incentive to report those who were adjudicated by a court to be “mentally defective,” a danger to themselves, a danger to others or suicidal.
Requires a Government Accountability Office audit of past NICS improvement spending.
The bill includes significant changes from the version that previously passed the House, including:
Requires incorrect or outdated records to be purged from the system within 30 days after the Attorney General learns of the need for correction.
Requires agencies to create “relief from disabilities” programs within 120 days, to prevent bureaucratic foot-dragging.
Provides that if a person applies for relief from disabilities and the agency fails to act on the application within a year-for any reason, including lack of funds-the applicant can seek immediate review of his application in federal court.
Allows awards of attorney’s fees to applicants who successfully challenge a federal agency’s denial of relief in court.
Requires that federal agencies notify all people being subjected to a mental health “adjudication” or commitment process about the consequences to their firearm ownership rights, and the availability of future relief.
Earmarks 3-10% of federal implementation grants for use in operating state “relief from disabilities” programs.
Elimination of all references to Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives regulations defining adjudications, commitments, or determinations related to Americans’ mental health. Instead, the bill uses terms previously adopted by the Congress.
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I recall her decision to run and her campaign very well. She claimed to have been a lifelong Republican, and the only reason she switched over to the Democrat Party was because of the gun control issue. She claimed to still agree with the Republicans on all issues except gun control.
Several weeks later I watched her on the news as she slammed the Republicans on Medicare/Social security and she mouthed words and phrases that were right out of the liberal Democrat handbook of propoganda. Republicans are cruel, cold, heartless, wanting to throw senior citizens out on the streets, take away their SS checks, etc.
Her liberal democrat rating from the ADA has hovered around 85-100 percent from year to year.
http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=26978&type=category&category=45
When she first ran, her Republican opponent really didnt hardly bother to fight for the seat. He didnt bother to start to campaign untill September. Only 2 months before election day (whereas McCarthy got her campaign off the ground in March), and even then he hardly showed up for anything. He would duck out of scheduled debates with her, and wouldnt show up for some scheduled campaign functions as well.
Over the years, registered Republican voters have been fleeing the state, taking their votes with them. As a result, making once safe Republican districts like hers into Democrat districts.
While it is true that there has no doubt been a long history of removing weapons (including sharp objects) from people, this has always implied locking people up unless they could be trusted not to go to any particular length to acquire the weapons in question. Legislation like this nonsense is neither necessary for people who wouldn't seek out weapons, nor is it sufficient to deal with those who would.
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