Posted on 12/20/2007 10:04:08 PM PST by george76
China's intelligence service gained access to a secret National Security Agency listening post in Hawaii through a Chinese-language translation service, according to U.S. intelligence officials.
The spy penetration was discovered several years ago as part of a major counterintelligence probe by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) that revealed an extensive program by China's spy service to steal codes and other electronic intelligence secrets, and to recruit military and civilian personnel with access to them.
According to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity, China's Ministry of State Security, the main civilian spy service, carried out the operations by setting up a Chinese translation service in Hawaii that represented itself as a U.S.-origin company.
The ruse led to classified contracts with the Navy and NSA to translate some of the hundreds of thousands of intercepted communications gathered by NSA's network of listening posts, aircraft and ships.
Naval intelligence officials familiar with the Chinese spy penetration said the access to both "raw" and analyzed intelligence at Kunia caused significant damage by giving China's government details on both the targets and the sources of U.S. spying operations. Such information would permit the Chinese to block the eavesdropping or to provide false and misleading "disinformation" to U.S. intelligence.
The officials did not say how long the Chinese operation lasted before being detected.
"There can be no higher target for an intelligence service, and that includes China's MSS and 2 PLA, than gaining access to an adversaries' codes and electronic intelligence," he said, because it is the ultimate in "foreknowledge" advocated by ancient Chinese strategist Sun Tzu.
The facility was singled out for criticism in the past by intelligence reform advocates because of its restrictive policies on information-sharing.
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>>>I dont know about the NSA part.
The Iran estimate came from the National Intelligence Council who have shared personnel with the Department of Energy. The Department of Energy has a vested interest in Global Warming and Carbon Credits. China has at least 43 per cent of total CERs registered at the UN.
When I was in the military many years ago....the Sergeant walked out of his office, and announced to assembled âmassesâ who wants to go Russian Language school....
China's Ministry of State Security, the main civilian spy service, carried out the operations by setting up a Chinese translation service in Hawaii that represented itself as a U.S.-origin company.Seems like a smart bomb would make a good Christmas present for China's Ministry of State Security. :') Thanks g76.
Bill Gertz covers the Pentagon. He can be reached at 202/636-3274 or at bgertz@washingtontimes.com.
You might know that Bill Gertz is always writing articles and books on the China threats, so I e-mailed him and asked him to help Duncan Hunter out, and included a snippet of a Hunter quote re: Communist China.
I hope others will join me in contacting Bill Gertz. Gertz has been on many radio shows, including Drudge, Mark Levin, Bob Dornan, et al
I studied Russian in High School with the specific idea of applying to one of the alphabet agencies. But second year wasn’t offered so that was a non-starter (then I changed my life goals).
Just depends on the situation. There really aren’t enough native born Arabic speakers. There are literally millions of native born Chinese speakers though.
Makes me wonder if this story isn’t quite what it seems. Assume for a moment that NSA isn’t quite as stupid as they are presented here and let that thought lead you to it’s logical conclusion.
All I’m going to say here.
Communist China’s military also hacked into a Pentagon computer last June, but yet, we still allow China to have an approximately $250 BILLION trade imbalance (in their favor) with us each year, due to their CHEATING.
Thanks for the ping!
You might know that Bill Gertz is always writing articles and books on the China threats, so I e-mailed him and asked him to help Duncan Hunter out, and included a snippet of a Hunter quote re: Communist China.
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These kinds of email addresses usually receive so much mail that the guys don’t look at them.
Did Gertz email you back?
Makes me wonder if this story isnt quite what it seems. Assume for a moment that NSA isnt quite as stupid as they are presented here and let that thought lead you to its logical conclusion.
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This story is definitely not what it seems.
That is, the slant of the story seems to be against political correctness. Coming from the liberal spy agency culture—this angle is hard to believe.
I’ve got a hunch that you are a crazy as I am.
Gates doesn’t do much for me either.
Maybe. But they are contracting out to private contractors to do the background investigation and then the contract itself.
Why in the world would they think it wouldn't ever bite them in the ass?
good question
They do this shit with impunity. Simply amazing.
I spent most of the day doing research on spies/communists in our Government.
Yes, looking at history, some of the names will surprise you and their children are still there.
The links are posted in the World Terrorism Thread #11:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1940757/posts?page=276#276
This batch of links, are in the Post #273 to Post #284 area.
They fit in with the Hoover report.
Ive got a hunch that you are a crazy as I am.<<<
Shhhhh, I try to keep it a secret.
Yes, they call me crazy, I keep telling people there are communists in our Government, who do not want the America that I grew up in, to exist.
LOL, at the least, old age has its benefits, you know what was and what is today, is very sad.
Bump.
Glad to see that Hunter is aware of the real China.
I played with Googles on China and spies afew a day and posted them here in Posts #170 & 173 & 176 of the World Terrorism #11:
Some went off on different angles and are closely tied to Canada.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1940757/posts?page=170#170
They are under Federal mandate to clear the backlog for security clearance issuances, but without any increase in the number of investigaters. Not much choice but to contract out.
I live in San Francisco and I can tell you that the number of native born Chinese speakers (3rd or 4th generation American) around here numbers in the 10s of thousands. Why NSA would need to go to a contract firm in Hawaii for translation is beyond me.
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