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Senate passes gun bill in response to rampage
Reuters ^ | Dec 19, 2007 | Thomas Ferraro

Posted on 12/19/2007 3:47:55 PM PST by RDTF

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Congress, prodded by the deadliest shooting rampage in modern American history, passed legislation on Wednesday designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.

Without objection, the Senate and House of Representatives approved the measure, which would bolster background checks for gun buyers, and sent it to President George W. Bush to sign.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; billsigning; bush; hr2640; mentallyill; vatech; virginiatech
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To: Gilbo_3
"wanna bet that the dept of RKBA list 'scratchers' is the only place we see fiscal restraint ?

Must means must and in a timely fashion too.

101 posted on 12/19/2007 9:13:05 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets

Now thats funny...will your comedy tour be in my area soon ??? How bout NY, where smarmy chuckie has blocked appropriations for the current reinstatement program for YEARS ???


102 posted on 12/19/2007 9:19:05 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: Gilbo_3
"How bout NY, where smarmy chuckie has blocked appropriations for the current reinstatement program for YEARS ???"

Reinstatement for what? Removal of firearm disabilities? Fed law says must for these mental cases, so Chucky's SOL, if that's what he's been doing.

103 posted on 12/19/2007 9:22:50 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: El Gato
Yes sir go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ ( easy way thomas.com) it is a congressional record of everything other than closed door sessions including text, arguments, voting records, and of course the pork that gets attatched. Everything is of course public record and it is all there. Makes some pretty good reading at times! You can search but bill context or by number as in HR 000 for example for every single session of congress.
104 posted on 12/19/2007 9:26:18 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: RDTF
Gee, isn’t it already illegal to STEAL?

Are we now a nation of simpletons that pass idiotic knee jerk laws like this with no dissent?

Kind of like an Energy Bill that doesn’t produce any new energy.

We are sheeple being led by the real mentally ill.

105 posted on 12/19/2007 9:29:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: spunkets
I dont have the links, but the reinstatement argument has been proven to be the BS 'good' stuff in this bill, precisely because there already is a mandated grievance procedure in current law that is slow played due to 'lack of funding'. the purse strings held by chuckie.

No different than arming pilots [or any other pro gun program], yeah they started processing and training requirements, but who forces them to do more than .0001% of a mandate ? who forces chuckie to play ball ???

106 posted on 12/19/2007 9:43:43 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Okay I would like to know how this is possible?
Eight of ten persons for mental health reasons have been disqualified but those records are not yet in the system? how did they get disqualified then? Missed felonies I don’t think so. There is a human error involved to a degree but the truth is being stretched just a little here. There is nothing your ssn number will not tell anybody including the FBI who is kidding who, shame on you Sara Brady.
107 posted on 12/19/2007 9:51:47 PM PST by CowboyConservative
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To: Gilbo_3
"because there already is a mandated grievance procedure in current law that is slow played due to 'lack of funding'. the purse strings held by chuckie."

the word must can't be ignored. If chucky's playing such games, the word may is probabbly not used. If the word must appears, the court would force chuky, or the legislature to remedy the situation.

The fed remedy for felons has been shut down by Congress, because hte word used for the remedy in the '68 GCA was may, not shall, or must.

"No different than arming pilots...

Again, there was no shall.

108 posted on 12/19/2007 9:58:30 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: steve86
It can start with something as ordinary as getting suspended on FR.

That's why I can no longer edit my profile...

I can't edit mine either but I never got suspended. What's up with that?

109 posted on 12/20/2007 12:57:18 AM PST by Looking4Truth (Radical muslims and illegal immigrants: One group wants to kill U.S and the other invade U.S.)
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To: RDTF

Why defines what constitutes mental illness? Considering pyschology is such a brittle and hazy subject, also Libs consider most of humanity to have some form of mental illness or the other.
This bill is rightly deceptive and can be easily used to seize guns from anyone.


110 posted on 12/20/2007 1:01:01 AM PST by GregH
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To: angkor

I refer you to post #97, and #90. Do a search here on FR, many organizations (Vet groups) have addressed this. The GOA and NRA have also expressed deep reservations...


111 posted on 12/20/2007 2:34:52 AM PST by JDoutrider
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To: RDTF
you’re calling Bush a stupid idiot?

No, the democRATS are. I'm just finding difficulty in disagreeing with them on this issue any more.

I keep thinking of a certain line from the movie, "Forest Gump".

112 posted on 12/20/2007 8:32:26 AM PST by meyer (Illegal Immigration - The profits are privatized, the costs are socialized.)
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To: RDTF; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
"Without objection, the Senate and House of Representatives approved the measure, which would bolster background checks for gun buyers, and sent it to President George W. Bush to sign."



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113 posted on 12/20/2007 9:04:49 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks

just make sure I’m not on that ping list


114 posted on 12/20/2007 9:17:39 AM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: RDTF

lol, no worries, I was just giving you the credit for posting the article.


115 posted on 12/20/2007 9:20:19 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: RDTF

All Americans in their right mind . . . agree that we should have a national concealed carry permit.
Criminals don’t bother with such things as licenses or permits, and free men and women are necessary to send them on their way.
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.
Free people do not ask permission to bear arms.


116 posted on 12/20/2007 9:29:45 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives.)
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To: tumblindice
Free people do not ask permission to bear arms.

(Congress critter)That's crazy talk right there...(/Congress critter)

117 posted on 12/20/2007 9:41:35 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: RDTF
How about having the right to carry and shoot back!

No, the elites go the other route and want to further restrict our right to carry and protect ourselves.

118 posted on 12/20/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Neocons-the intellectual blood brothers of the Left-Yaron Brook)
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To: The Pack Knight

I haven’t read the bill, but according to the article, “The bill would also allow those found to no longer be mentally ill and a threat to be removed from the list.”

But, being a skeptic myself, I wouldn’t take this at face value until I knew the details.


119 posted on 12/20/2007 11:48:47 AM PST by BradtotheBone
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