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1 posted on 12/19/2007 2:40:11 PM PST by wintertime
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To: metmom; wagglebee

Please ping those who may be interested.

Thanks!


2 posted on 12/19/2007 2:43:30 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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Finally, to ALL Christian teachers, NO! your school is NOT different. All government schools are Anti-Christian, and if you are paying dues to the NEA you are further pounding nails into the spriritual coffin of our nation's children.

The money quote.
3 posted on 12/19/2007 2:44:09 PM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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Another reason to homeschool.

Thanks.

Wintertime

4 posted on 12/19/2007 2:45:41 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

Parents are the only people who can make a difference at the grass roots level. Public schools are a joke.


5 posted on 12/19/2007 2:53:14 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Guess what? I'm voting for the Conservative.)
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To: wintertime

Interesting article, wintertime.


8 posted on 12/19/2007 2:57:34 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: wintertime

I’m already out ... my kids that is ...


10 posted on 12/19/2007 3:01:54 PM PST by TexGuy
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To: wintertime
This all bears repeating.

2)Consider your own children and the children of the parents in your congregation as your most important and urgent mission field.

3) Get your kids and the kids of your congregation out of the government schools.

4) Organize, and be teachers in, Christian schools in your own congregations....

6) Once your congregation has a viable and healthy education structure for its own children take in as many non-Christian children as possible ( provided that it would not overwhelm the Christian culture of the school). Mentor the parents of these children.

7) Work to organize private Christian scholarship foundations so that **every** child in the U.S. would have access to a private Christian education. Harvard has and endowment of $35 BILLION ,and small colleges like Amerhert or Williams $1.7 and $1.9 BILLION, respectively. We are a wealthy nation. If Christians REALLY WANTED they could do the same for children in this nation.

Nothing is more important than this. The church's first mission field has to be its own children. Lose that battle and nothing else much matters.

13 posted on 12/19/2007 3:07:33 PM PST by marron
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To: wintertime
Really dumb plan. When there are no Christian teachers, what do you think will fill the void - - that’s right, atheists and worse.
15 posted on 12/19/2007 3:10:53 PM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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We are forced to PAY for secular schools. We can send our kids to other schools if we have money left over, but not after we PAY for the secular service first.

This is a violation of the first amendment -- you know the one that is misapplied to guarantee the schools WE MUST PAY FOR FIRST AND FOREMOST secular. The feds have made a school system. They insist that it is secular. They insist we all must pay for it.

The situation is absurd. The federal government is supposed to stay out of religious affairs. Worked fine, until governments made EVERYTHING their affair, while at the same time the restriction on the federal government was expanded to all levels of government by judicial fiat.

OBVIOUSLY teachers are not the federal congress. OBVIOUSLY They do make laws. SO HOW CAN THE POSSIBLY VIOLATE THE FOLLOWING: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free practice thereof."?

20 posted on 12/19/2007 3:21:07 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: wintertime

Bruce seems to be short on ideas about how these newly resigned teachers are going to put food on the table. Oldest daughter is a teacher and I wouldn’t advise her to quit her job unless she and her husband somehow managed to double his wage.


26 posted on 12/19/2007 3:27:58 PM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: wintertime

100% agree. The government schools are a lost cause and should be treated as such. If enough of us get out, we can also form a political bloc powerful enough to confront the NEA and get back our local taxes that are currently being paid to indoctrinate other people’s kids into secular humanist christophobes.


28 posted on 12/19/2007 3:30:37 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: wintertime

Christian teachers let the Lord, not a presumptuous Freeper, direct your actions.


37 posted on 12/19/2007 4:01:58 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: wintertime

bookmark bump...


38 posted on 12/19/2007 4:05:23 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Member VRWC - Volvo-owning right-wing conspiracy.)
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To: wintertime

“”In 2002 the SBC’s Council on Family Life reported that roughly 88% of our children leave the church within 2 years after graduating from high school.”

Maybe they moved...

“Research by Dr. Brian Ray, founder of NHERI, found that 94% of all homeschooled children retained their faith into adulthood.”

These stats are incongruous...


41 posted on 12/19/2007 4:11:14 PM PST by dakine
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To: wintertime
I'm taking a very early retirement this year to move overseas and teach students who want to learn and have parents who emphasize the importance of education.

I hate to say I am giving up on the US education system but it does seem hopeless.

47 posted on 12/19/2007 4:44:47 PM PST by WesternPacific
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wintertime,

Each individual should follow the leading of the Lord as to the course and direction of his life. That leading should only be by the Holy Spirit in conjunction with one's knowledge of the Word. Perhaps there will be a time when the Spirit of God leads all believers, teachers and students, to leave the public schools, but it is presumptuous for one believer to tell another believer what God's directive will is.

Even the great reformer, Luther, worked within the very evil and apostate Catholic Church until circumstances forced him out. That brings up another issue. Should an Evangelical believer work at a Catholic school which has chapel services teaching doctrines pernicious to his fundamental faith? Oddly enough, I believe the answer is yes -- if the Spirit guides the believer in that direction..

Will you broaden the scope of what you are asking of believing teachers to include an injunction for believers to leave all lines of work involving businesses which have policies that are secular-liberal or to the left (eg. Apple, Oracle, Disney, Fortune 500).

49 posted on 12/19/2007 4:53:46 PM PST by Zechariah11
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From what I have observed, Christians aren’t tolerated very well in public schools, being that the majority of the administrators and other teachers tend to be politically correct left-leaning liberals. They don’t tolerate down to earth people very well. The Christian Teachers tend to get weeded out early in their careers as a result.


50 posted on 12/19/2007 4:57:59 PM PST by rodeo-mamma
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To: wintertime

Public schools - as schools - are simply obsolete. It is a 19th century paradigm that was wearing thin at the end of the 20th century. It is not only no longer necessary, but does more harm than good.

Use the OVER $10,000 per student per year and give their family a $500 computer, a free monthly high speed internet connection, curriculum options, and then leave it in the hands of the parents like God intended.


51 posted on 12/19/2007 5:01:25 PM PST by RobRoy
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“All government schools are Anti-Christian, and if you are paying dues to the NEA you are further pounding nails into the spriritual coffin of our nation’s children.”

Dear Mr. Shortt, you’re full of it.


52 posted on 12/19/2007 7:25:56 PM PST by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: wintertime

Local churches need to start their own schools. Unfortunately, not everyone is equipped or motivated to homeschool.


56 posted on 12/19/2007 9:14:59 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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