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Heed Don Perata (Even A Liberal Senate Leader Is Sometimes Right Alert)
San Diego Union Tribune ^ | 12/18/2007 | San Diego Union Tribune Editorial

Posted on 12/18/2007 12:09:43 PM PST by goldstategop

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez are probably still in the Governor's cigar tent this morning, puffing away on stogies to celebrate the Assembly's 45-31 vote yesterday in favor of their compromise health insurance “reform” bill. It was by far the pair's top goal for 2007. Schwarzenegger desperately wants another fix of national media attention after taking a yearlong victory lap for the state's landmark greenhouse gas emissions law in 2006. Núñez was deeply envious and wants his turn in the spotlight.

The result of this desperation has been a farce masquerading as a public debate. No hearings were ever held on the vast evidence that it is illegal under federal law for a state to mandate that employers provide health benefits. Nor were hearings held on how Massachusetts' reform plan has fared or on a dozen other obvious questions.

Instead, the only fight all year has been over how to resolve the differences between Schwarzenegger's more ambitious, complex plan and Núñez's simpler version.

Thankfully, the Assembly vote yesterday may not be replicated any time soon in the Senate. Don Perata, the powerful Senate President, says the Legislature must be cautious about adopting a health plan that could make the state's $14 billion deficit even worse.

Don, what took you so long?

If he is skeptical about the flimsy claims that the state could take a huge new role in health care without increasing spending, why didn't he bring it up long ago? It's a crucial question – whatever the size of the deficit.

Nevertheless, we welcome Perata's call to have the Legislative Analyst's Office examine whether the plan to increase the number of Californians covered by health insurance is truly revenue neutral. The LAO number-crunching should not be limited to a close look at the increase in federal aid that's supposedly forthcoming or the money that could be generated with an increase in the state's cigarette tax. It should also include an analysis of what would happen if the state gives private employers an incentive to drop their own coverage by allowing them to pay a relatively small fee to use the state's health insurance program.

You don't need an economics degree to understand that many, perhaps most, California businesses that spend 13 percent or so of payroll on health benefits would jump at the chance to instead pay a 6.5 percent in-lieu fee to the state. You would then have hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Californians enrolled in a state insurance program that they would reasonably expect to be every bit as good as their old private plan – but the state would have half as much money to provide coverage as the former private insurer did.

If the state reduces coverage or rations care to cover this funding gap, the backlash would be huge. Politically speaking, the only remedy to the problem would be ever-growing state subsidies.

Unfortunately, instead of considering the likely result of the Governor's and the Speaker's health proposals, most of the Legislature (and the media) have kept busy applauding their good intentions.

That's no way to run a state. Here's hoping Perata's burst of common sense finally gives California the full health reform debate it has needed all along.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; arnoldcare; california; erisa; fabiannunez; healthcare; heeddonperata; nonewtaxes; redarnold; sandiegouniontribune; schwarzenegger; socializedmedicine; unfundedstatemandate
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I don't agree with California State Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata on much. Yet even a liberal leader can be right sometimes. He wants to delay ArnoldCare because it would increase the state deficit. Why not just kill it? The plan is illegal under ERISA. And MassCare hasn't worked out as well as expected. There's no need to rush to put yet another unfunded state mandate into law.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/18/2007 12:09:44 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Actually, they had a hearing... yesterday. Some hearing!

You can look for Perata’s concerns to disappear shortly after the Governor’s budget speech in January. I’d anticipate the Senate will take action on the bill in February. The real remaining question is whether the voting public will fall for it.


2 posted on 12/18/2007 12:16:16 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: goldstategop

If a liberal is in CYA mode, you know it’s a bad piece of legislation.


3 posted on 12/18/2007 12:18:23 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Friends don't let friends vote Huckabee)
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To: ArmstedFragg
How is the Governor going to magically make a $14 billion deficit disappear? The public would be interested in hearing the answer to that question. He can't. And he wants to saddle California with more social welfare spending at a time when the state can't pay bills already due.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 12/18/2007 12:19:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Free Vulcan
ArnoldCare is THAT bad. Tax increases, premium increases, a vast new government bureaucracy to oversee it, business mandates, family mandates and individual mandates. People are going to be thrilled by those kinds of requirements that they will fall in love with it. Yeah, right!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 12/18/2007 12:21:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

MASSCare is alrady becoming an uncontrollable nightmare, with those under $29.600 looking at having to MANDATORIALY pay 1/4 to 1/3 of thier income for healthcare!!


6 posted on 12/18/2007 12:30:45 PM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: goldstategop

regardless, He still owes us a perp walk. (Are you listening DoJ?) ;-)


7 posted on 12/18/2007 12:31:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: tcrlaf
They lied of course. But politicians do that, don't they? When you get a government mandate, you lose freedom. People ought to understand that what government gives, it can also take away too.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 12/18/2007 12:35:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

bump


9 posted on 12/18/2007 12:46:14 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: goldstategop
"ArnoldCare is THAT bad. Tax increases, premium increases, a vast new government bureaucracy to oversee it,"

Even a cursory review of the history of big government programs teaches that the total costs of this program are being understated by a magnitude of 10 to 20.

10 posted on 12/18/2007 12:53:58 PM PST by joebuck
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To: joebuck
I think this plan is low-balled. Real costs will probably be in the magnitude of $100 billion a year. The reason the ArnoldCare proponents aren't on the level is they know no one would pay that much for health care. So they have to do it incrementally before people wise up to what they're up to. To repeat: if you liked the energy de-regulation scam, you'll love ArnoldCare. No knows either how it will actually work out in practice.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 12/18/2007 1:03:04 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
This is not the time to get excited.

Even if the Senate companion passed, the governor couldn't sign a compromise into law. Because taxation is involved, the proposal must be approved by either a super majority of the legislature or a simple majority of the electorate. This measure is a referendum.

Does the referendum have a chance? Absolutely! The principle beneficiaries of this referendum, Mexican nationals and their anchor babies, will support this in a heart beat, AS LONG AS SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY PAYS FO R IT!

12 posted on 12/18/2007 1:30:10 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: goldstategop

I don’t understand. How can Mass do it, and it’s illegal in CA ?


13 posted on 12/18/2007 1:38:06 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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A few years back, when I was writing a column on the legislature, I floated the idea of catastrophic care insurance, based on the model of state disability coverage. It’d have a five grand deductable, be purchased by the state from private insurers, and funded by a small employee/employer tax in the same way that disability is funded now. It was incredibly cheap to do, addressed the real issue of concern to the majority of Californians by assuring that no worker would be wiped out by a major illness or accident, and left the market for dollar one services absolutely free. It was even ‘sellable’ to the legislature’s conservatives because something was going to pass, and everything else was worse.

It got nowhere.

Too simple, I guess.


14 posted on 12/18/2007 1:40:55 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: goldstategop

Interesting discussion on a Universal Health Care plan in action:

http://www.transatlanticpolitics.com/2007/12/18/against-universal-health-care-romanias-disastrous-example/


15 posted on 12/18/2007 1:45:57 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: goldstategop

To All Gold State GOPers: You are welcome in Nevada. I will get you your own GOP Congressman and at least one GOP US Senator. And I can even get you GOP elected officials from your dog catcher all the way up to the White House.

I’ll promise you lower taxes, more freedom, less crime and less traffic. Live in a larger, nicer house for a lower price and have a better quality of life.

Come on over and help us continue to turn Nevada into a redder and redder state. Email me privately and I’ll help you transition and show you why Republicans are happier here in the Silver State.


16 posted on 12/18/2007 1:46:47 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; editor-surveyor

Right ON, Norm!!! Pistol packin Perata bein frog-marched... “UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SPREAD ‘EM!!!”


17 posted on 12/18/2007 1:54:08 PM PST by SierraWasp (Too much religion mixed with politics just leads the participants into too much hate & discontent!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
He still owes us a perp walk.

Bump!

18 posted on 12/18/2007 2:03:38 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Amerigomag
Of course, its for the illegals! And they would happy to have insured Californians pick up the slack for them. That's why the public needs to be educated about this. Everything that's wrong with ArnoldCare needs to be highlighted. In liberal Oregon, voters rejected a health care plan marketed for the children financed with a $2.60 per pack cigarette tax. So I'm confident this can be defeated at the ballot box.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 12/18/2007 2:55:18 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: cinives
ERISA. Federal law prohibits employer mandates. This is flatly unconstitutional This has already been discussed on FR.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 12/18/2007 2:56:29 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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