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To: Fester Chugabrew
My expectations are obviously higher than yours.

That's because you expect everyone to agree with you.

NOT!

503 posted on 12/18/2007 1:42:01 PM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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Man, talk about missing (or purposely twisting) the point.

Saying that traitors often fool people by appearing to be one of them is not a bad thing - it is wise. The bible itself talks about wolves in sheep's clothing. I'm going to post a really good quote. Please read it, and keep in mind that a traitor or enemy is often crafty and instead of appearing as an outsider, will potray himself in a way that will get people's trust... to fool people.


"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.

For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

- Cicero


540 posted on 12/18/2007 2:02:14 PM PST by incindiary
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To: bcsco
That's because you expect everyone to agree with you.

No. I expect assertions to be backed up by evidence other than hearsay in a public forum. You asserted that Ron Paul is backed by "fascists" and that you would refuse to support him for this single reason. Not only have you failed to deliver or operate with a sound definition of fascist, you've failed to present sound evidence that Ron Paul is receiving support from fascists; people who by definition would be opposed to Ron Paul's ideas regarding individual freedom and accountability.

My expectations may not be particularly high, as I would think backing one's views, and sound definitions, to be part of a discussion regarding these matters. But my expectations are obviously higher than yours, since you expect only "silliness." If it's only silliness you expect, then you might look to other threads and forums.

594 posted on 12/18/2007 2:47:46 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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