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To: TexasCajun
A disdain for Christians is not the way to win the hearts and minds of Conservative Christian Republicans.

His point is that some may misuse Christianity and Patriotism to empower themselves. Is Huckabee and example of such a person? Paul does not explicitly say so. But few who have campaigned for the office of POTUS have, like Huckabee, used a particular faith as the expressed basis for their ideals and vision. Our country is by definition pluralistic, so it serves us well to elect a presdent who expressly understands as much.

I've always appreciated Dr. Paul's trust in the individual rather than hoardes who wrap themselves and represent themselves with one ideology or another. All the worse when their ideology is wrapped in the wrong symbols. The Christian faith is predominantly not one of earthly power.

324 posted on 12/18/2007 10:51:39 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
I've always appreciated Dr. Paul's trust in the individual rather than hoardes who wrap themselves and represent themselves with one ideology or another.

Hmmmm. That hasn't stopped him from accepting donations from the likes of Truthers and Fascists. So, are you saying he's willing to take their money but doesn't trust them? Then why take their money? Oh, I see, he can't help it if they want to help out. Yes. That makes it alright.

328 posted on 12/18/2007 10:55:46 AM PST by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Fester Chugabrew
His point is that some may misuse Christianity and Patriotism to empower themselves. Is Huckabee and example of such a person? Paul does not explicitly say so. But few who have campaigned for the office of POTUS have, like Huckabee, used a particular faith as the expressed basis for their ideals and vision.

Of course, that is his point. Those feigning outrage are obviously not those of us who have supported Ron Paul's consistent defense of the Founding Fathers' values.

Consider, George Washington was a devout Christian. Washinton at prayer in the snow of Valley Forge has long inspired Americans--as I am sure it inspires Ron Paul, a man of strong Faith, himself. But Washington never presented himself as former Governor Huckabee, wearing his "Faith" on his shoulder. As for the genuineness of that "Faith.?"

I would ordinarily be prepared to give a man the benefit of the doubt, but some of Huckabee's remarks on the subject of Hispanic immigration can only make one wonder. While his Faith reaches out to all mankind, it has never trashed the continuity of the family; the progression of the generations of a people--and yet Huckabee seems indifferent to the American posterity. That is not traditional, Biblically based Faith. And yet, as a public Office Holder, he has in the past sworn before God to honor the liberty of that American posterity.

It is also apparent that some here do not understand what the term Fascism actually refers to. Fascism was the "Third Force" in Europe, that sacrificed individual freedom for an Oligarchy combining nationalistic Socialists with Corporate interests, while turning away from the traditional Socialist attack on religion--i.e. toleration of religion, in form at least, but diminishing much of the traditional volition in many areas of the Faith driven individual--as, of course, the volition of all other individuals. America has always allowed maximum, reasonable, individual volition--and personal responsibility--in one's life, both personal and public.

William Flax

343 posted on 12/18/2007 11:07:13 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Liberalism is an ideology based in the 'faith' that no other Faith (ie. Christians) should dictate morals or values upon them and government should do everything to restrict and outlaw Christian influence in every aspect of daily life.

The majority of Dr. Paul's supports are Liberals, you can not deny that.

366 posted on 12/18/2007 11:33:21 AM PST by TexasCajun
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