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[Ron] Paul Not Opposed To Same-Sex Marriage
The Bulletin ^ | 12/14/2007 | Joe Murray

Posted on 12/18/2007 5:29:12 AM PST by Sopater

Keeping true to his strict federalist view, GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul told ABC's John Stossel gays should be allowed to marry.

"They can do whatever they want and they can call it whatever they want; just so they don't expect to impose their relationship on someone else," Dr. Paul stated.

The Texas Congressman added, "I would like to see all governments out of the marriage question. I don't think it is a state function; it is a religious function. There was a time when only churches dealt with marriage and they determined what it was. But 100 years or so ago, for health reasons, they claimed the state would protect us if we new more about our spouses and did health tests and had to get a license to get marriage. I don't agree with that."

Keyes Makes Rare Debate Appearance

While he has been systematically excluded from all of the mainstream presidential debates, Alan Keyes, the former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations and conservative firebrand, was back in business during Wednesday's GOP Iowa debate. Mr. Keyes used the platform to discuss key moral issues, especially abortion.

"I would restore their moral sovereignty - it's something I think I can do very simply as president by declaring that no action taken by the executive branch would support, aid or abet anyone who is destroying the constitutional rights of those who are in the womb," stated Mr. Keyes.

The fiery orator further stated Rudy Giuliani would "abandon the heritage of the Republican Party" and he could not support the former New York City mayor if he became the party's nominee.

Thompson Applauds Florida Marriage Amendment

In light of the report that petitions favoring the Florida Marriage Amendment exceeded the number necessary to be placed on the Florida ballot next November, GOP presidential hopeful Fred Thompson pledged to support marriage as the union between one man and one woman.

"I strongly believe in the time-honored principle of marriage being a union between one man and one woman, the foundation of any civilized society," Mr. Thompson said. "I will appoint judges who apply the law, not make it up from the bench. We should not be held subject to judicially created social policy, and I will use the bully pulpit of the presidency to defend the institution of marriage."

©The Evening Bulletin 2007


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fredthompson; lcr; logcabin; paul; prohomoagenda; ronpaul
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How can the Constitution Party call this guy 'the best they've got'? They seem to ignore this issue with him. Is everyone else really that bad that Paul is 'the best'?

God help us all.

I'm fairly dissappointed with the GOP choices. I still think that Duncan Hunter is the best choice over all.

1 posted on 12/18/2007 5:29:13 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo both pass the strictest constitutional muster. Ron Paul is a moonbat.


2 posted on 12/18/2007 5:35:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Sopater
"I would like to see all governments out of the marriage question. I don't think it is a state function; it is a religious function. There was a time when only churches dealt with marriage and they determined what it was. But 100 years or so ago, for health reasons, they claimed the state would protect us if we new more about our spouses and did health tests and had to get a license to get marriage. I don't agree with that."

Marriage is treated as a civil contract because the courts decide property settlements and child custody cases.

How would he handle these matters if marriage ceased to exist as a civil contract?

3 posted on 12/18/2007 5:35:44 AM PST by donna (Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")
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To: Sopater
Is RP getting more bizarre or is it my imagination.
Seems as though the more money he raises the more odd his behavior becomes.
4 posted on 12/18/2007 5:45:38 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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Golly, the Quakers have been marrying and getting witnesses to sign their legitimate documents for years.

I guess we need the Gov’t to make if official. How will society survive if the Gov’t does not bless it?

5 posted on 12/18/2007 5:46:54 AM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: Sopater

A fruitcake himself


6 posted on 12/18/2007 5:47:24 AM PST by JamesA
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To: donna
"How would he handle these matters if marriage ceased to exist as a civil contract?"

It's simple. When you go into court the judge goes "OK let's see your contract". What standardized civil marriage has done is to create a mandatory non-negotiable contract that no one knows the terms of until they get into divorce court and the judge makes them up.

7 posted on 12/18/2007 5:51:54 AM PST by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: Sopater

AND.....

according to his interview this morning on FOX news, Christians and Patriots cause Fascism.

When I heard that, any residual respect I had for the man evaporated.


8 posted on 12/18/2007 5:52:19 AM PST by RepRivFarm
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To: BGHater

the Quakers also do not believe in fighting for their country. Ok, they do sound like the ru paulies


9 posted on 12/18/2007 5:53:36 AM PST by sticker
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To: Sopater

People have become so accustomed to having gov’t involved in our lives, they can’t imagine what it would be without it, just like prisoners who aren’t prepared for freedom when they leave jail.

For once, someone has nailed this issue. You can’t tell me you honestly support a Marriage Amendment. If so, why not pass and Amendment for every other thing we dislike in society?


10 posted on 12/18/2007 5:57:05 AM PST by VocalObserver
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To: sticker

Please.

Smedley Butler, Nathan Greene, Thomas Paine, Nixon, Thomas Paine.


11 posted on 12/18/2007 5:58:18 AM PST by BGHater (If Guns Cause Crime Then Matches Cause Arson?)
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To: Sopater
The fiery orator

Fiery? Only in the sense that at any given moment one expects him to drop in a reference to igniting his Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.

12 posted on 12/18/2007 6:05:44 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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He is a libertarian. Nothing shocking there. At least he aint a lying flim flam artist, like the Huckster and some of the others.

Hunter was my choice also, but I will settle for Friday Fred if it comes down to it.


13 posted on 12/18/2007 6:07:14 AM PST by crz
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LOL! You’re making me veeeery angry!


14 posted on 12/18/2007 6:08:33 AM PST by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: antinomian

Wow, what a change, LOL.


15 posted on 12/18/2007 6:12:34 AM PST by donna ("We can create Kingdom on earth" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: svcw
Is RP getting more bizarre or is it my imagination.

You're telling me!!! Oh wait....

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.--Federalist 45

D#mn you James Madison!! Of course if you can somehow prove that marriage, and the definition thereof, isn't in the 'ordinary course of affairs' concerning the 'lives, liberties, and properties' of the people I'll be more than happy to listen to why the federal government should be involved in every moral issue that 'conservatives' want it to be in. You want a pastor, go to church. Personally I'm voting for the President of these United States

16 posted on 12/18/2007 6:13:25 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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What about intergalactic marriage?

Marriage between Romulans and Vulcans?

Trekkies and Star Wars enthusiasts?
17 posted on 12/18/2007 6:14:10 AM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: billbears
Personally I'm voting for the President of these United States

You will not find one in Ron Paul.
18 posted on 12/18/2007 6:15:20 AM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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He is a libertarian.

Screw the kids, I'm a libertarian. Its none of your business if homosexuals want to raise children. Children are not rights-bearing individuals. Marriage contracts are not designed at least in part, to protect the interests of children. Even if they were, children do not have a right to be raised by their mother and father. If two cows, a turkey, and lawnmower want to get together and raise children, let them. Yes I'm being sarcastic.

19 posted on 12/18/2007 6:15:29 AM PST by Jibaholic ("Those people who are not ruled by God will be ruled by tyrants." --William Penn)
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To: RepRivFarm
according to his interview this morning on FOX news, Christians and Patriots cause Fascism

LOL. I realize reading may beyond some but he was quoting Sinclair Lewis. It was a general statement but history has proven that also to be the case before.

20 posted on 12/18/2007 6:15:41 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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