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Global warming pact set for 2009 after US backs down (Pres Bush caves to PC crowd again)
AFP ^ | December 15, 2007

Posted on 12/15/2007 9:22:53 AM PST by TheEaglehasLanded

NUSA DUA, Indonesia (AFP) — World climate negotiators set a 2009 deadline Saturday for a landmark treaty to fight global warming after two weeks of intense haggling led to a climbdown by an isolated United States.

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon, who flew to the Indonesian island of Bali for a late appeal for flexibility, praised the deal as a "pivotal first step" to confront climate change, "the defining challenge of our time."

Following gruelling all-night talks, the conference of 190 nations finally launched a process to negotiate a new treaty for when the UN Kyoto Protocol's commitments expire in 2012.

It comes after a year of stark warnings from Nobel-winning scientists, who say millions of people will be at risk of hunger, homelessness and disease by 2100 if temperatures keep rising at current rates.

The United States, the only major industrialised nation to reject the Kyoto treaty, reached a compromise with the European Union to avoid mentioning any figures as a target for slashing greenhouse gas emissions.

The deal instead only makes an indirect reference to scientists' warnings that the world must sharply cut back its emissions to prevent what could be a catastrophic rise in temperatures.

But after the summit went into an unscheduled 13th day of talks, the United States said it would not accept the statement as it wanted developing countries such as fast-growing China to make tougher commitments.

The senior US negotiator, Paula Dobriansky, said she had heard "many strong statements from many major developing country leaders on a greater role in helping to address urgently this global problem."

It "doesn't seem it's going to be reflected in our outcome here in the declaration," she said, explaining why the United States would reject the draft.

Dobriansky was loudly booed by other delegations, and a US environmental activist representing Papua New Guinea said to rousing cheers: "If you're not willing to lead, please get out of the way."

After repeated verbal lashings, Dobriansky again took the microphone and said that Washington would "go forward and join consensus," to the cheers of the conference.

German Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel, a strong critic of US President George W. Bush's climate policy, said he was ready to ask through his mobile telephone for Chancellor Angela Merkel to intervene with the White House.

"I had already typed the SMS after Dobriansky's first statement but then I was able to cancel it," Gabriel said.

"In the end, nobody wanted to have a failure," including the United States, Gabriel said.

"We have achieved more than we could have expected previously, but it is less than what is needed to meet the urgency of the problem."

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown called the agreement "a vital step forward for the whole world". He added: "I am delighted that after two weeks of intensive talks the world's nations have agreed on a Roadmap to achieving a new global framework for tackling climate change. The Bali Roadmap is just the first step."

And German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the Roadmap "opens the way to real negotiations on effective measures to protect the climate, and for binding targets" on reducing CO2 emissions.

"Of course, the road to an agreement to succeed Kyoto is still paved with obstacles," she said, adding that she was "convinced" that Bali will bring real progress.

"The joint stance of the Europeans was an important foundation for this good result. Without it, success at Bali would not have been possible."

The agreement came after extraordinary scenes in which UN chief Ban jetted in for a last-ditch appeal, the UN's exhausted climate chief nearly broke down in tears and conference chair Indonesia apologised for a disastrous procedural mix-up.

"What we witnessed today was an incredible drama," said Alden Meyer of the US-based Union of Concerned Scientists.

"I've been following these negotiations for 20 years and I've never seen anything like it."

Yvo de Boer, head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, said the deal showed global commitment and broke down the divide between countries with Kyoto obligations and those without.

"In that sense, what we're seeing disappear here today is what I would call the Berlin Wall of climate change," he said.

Hans Verolme of conservation group WWF accused the world of bowing to US pressure and removing a scientific punch needed to fight global warming.

But he also said the Bali talks would inspire environmentalists and activist nations until the end of Bush's mandate in January 2009.

"We have learned a historic lesson. If you expose to the world the dealings of the United States, they will ultimately back down."

Bush has argued that Kyoto is unfair as it does not require fast-growing emerging economies such as China, the second largest emitter after the United States, to meet targeted emissions curbs.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; bali; bdsyetnocure; bushadministration; caves; dobriansky; globalwarming; goebbelswarming
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Since the sun is the major culprit in global warming, maybe the Pres can pull a Hezekiah/Isaiah miracle and get the sun to cooperate with him. :>)


81 posted on 12/15/2007 12:57:48 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: jveritas
He did not back down at all, he simply told them deal with it when he is not President anymore. In fact all his years in office he never submitted to any treaty regarding global warming.

Thank-you. The vanity headline is completely misleading. As others said the issue has been kicked down the road. This article is desperately trying to create an image of "progress" when there has been basically none.

Any predictions made for 2100 means there are 92 years before that prediction can be disproved. Of course at that point the mass manipulation of data and the complete politicizing of science would disallow anything to be proved otherwise.

And if I hear the term "industrialized nations" as a criteria one more time without including China and India I'm going to explode.

82 posted on 12/15/2007 1:14:15 PM PST by torchthemummy (“America Will Not Reject Abortion Until America Sees Abortion” -Father Frank Pavone)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

I don’t think it’s clear what happened. Let’s hope Bush will just do nothing.

There’s not much to be gained by arguing with these lunatics. Better to ignore them.


83 posted on 12/15/2007 1:20:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Smile-n-Win

Australia just changed their position on global warming after just electing a new but socialistic leader, Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who is agreeing to the Kyoto Treaty. He made this his first priority as Prime Minister of Australia.


84 posted on 12/15/2007 1:25:06 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: MaestroLC

“Bush passed the buck on this one. Not surprised.”

Oh Puhleeze. This still has to be proposed in congress, approved by the Senate and signed. It won’t get that far. The Senate will never get 60 votes.

Bush did the right thing. Let the moonbats make a big deal over this in an election year before it gets shot down in flames.


85 posted on 12/15/2007 1:35:23 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Hunter Thompson in 08.)
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To: snowsislander
I wish we could have sent a representative with some spine

Bolton!

But I don't think I could stand it when Voinovich cries again.

86 posted on 12/15/2007 1:38:35 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
It comes after a year of stark warnings from Nobel-winning scientists, who say millions of people will be at risk of hunger, homelessness and disease by 2100 if temperatures keep rising at current rates.

It comes after decades of this bulldung being spewed via warming, cooling, or any other unpredictable weather cycle that has been a part of nature since the world was created only to satisfy the wanton desire of some to transfer wealth evenly to all after skimming off the top for the U.N.

It's sad that as humanity progresses the ability to be conned progresses also.

87 posted on 12/15/2007 2:08:02 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
World climate negotiators

What next in titles?

88 posted on 12/15/2007 2:11:47 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: snowsislander
the closing statement seems to say that it is now “firmly” launched.

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We need to firmly launch the UN into the Atlantic ocean!

89 posted on 12/15/2007 2:14:13 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Bush and his Administration will cave when pressured or booed

Yeah...I don't think so.

I think he just bought some time until AGW is totally debunked and the cool-down cycle begins to kick in.

Since CO2 amounts to about .34% of the atmosphere, that in itself is insignificant, regardless of its "greenhouse" properties.

However, looking at the major constituents of our atmosphere, can anyone tell me that Nitrogen and Oxygen are NOT GREENHOUSE GASES?

90 posted on 12/15/2007 2:18:39 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: plain talk
“On top of which, because attempts to cut emissions will slow development, the current UN approach of CO2 reduction is likely to increase human suffering from future climate change rather than to decrease it. “

Sound like the natural result of unintended consequences every time we allow these pc globalists to influence policy.

The banning of DDT comes to mind.

91 posted on 12/15/2007 2:21:24 PM PST by evad
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

92 posted on 12/15/2007 2:22:24 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: xcamel
ping


93 posted on 12/15/2007 2:24:12 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

after he got our votes in 2004, he got totally outta control and caving is not attractive.


94 posted on 12/15/2007 2:30:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (TERRI'S DAY MARCH 31, 2008 Remember Terri's hopes & fears, not the cowards.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Ladies and gentleman, we’re about to go global.

They will tell us if we can use water, tax us on it, we can’t fight the enemy in the waters...

Wait till the Lenin/Mao phase kicks in... we all know what’s after that.


95 posted on 12/15/2007 2:38:24 PM PST by AliVeritas (The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Stay strong white/dry martyrs.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded

Bush didn’t back down as much as drop back and punt.


96 posted on 12/15/2007 2:41:22 PM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal superfecta: huckabee, romney, giuliani, mccain)
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To: plain talk

http://leaningstraightup.com/2007/12/15/yet-more-global-warming-stories-the-real-goal-angry-al-the-baby-tax-and-the-letter-no-one-will-read/

100 Climate Experts Speak
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/100_climate_experts_speak/

Taking Off The Mask/Envirofascists
The Rott Rants
http://www.nicedoggie.net/2007/?p=1446

More Rantage
http://www.nicedoggie.net/2007/?p=1441


97 posted on 12/15/2007 2:55:44 PM PST by AliVeritas (The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Stay strong white/dry martyrs.)
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To: CyberAnt

I don’t assume anything. Just be sure to link me to the report of Bush taking this person to task. I don’t think that is likely to happen.


98 posted on 12/15/2007 2:57:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: plain talk

“The Courage to Do Nothing”
http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/2007/12/newsflash_scien.html


99 posted on 12/15/2007 2:58:19 PM PST by AliVeritas (The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church. Stay strong white/dry martyrs.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
"If you're not willing to lead, please get out of the way."

Translation: And let us loot your treasury.

100 posted on 12/15/2007 3:01:16 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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