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*Illegals Foes Reject Nod to Huckabee* (Sorry, Huck-ites, Not So Fast!)
Washington Times ^ | 14 December 2007 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 12/13/2007 5:18:54 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Minuteman co-founder James Gilchrist's endorsement of presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has spurred a backlash among illegal-immigration opponents who say the former Arkansas governor is soft on immigration enforcement. "Mike Huckabee is pro-amnesty and favors a path to citizenship for illegal aliens currently in the U.S. that would require a lifting of current penalties," said William Gheen, whose 25,000-member Americans for Legal Immigration sent mass mailings yesterday to more than 300 pro-enforcement groups.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; elections; gilchrist; huckabee; huckster; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; jerryseper; mikehuckabee; minutemen; sanctuary; simcox
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To: dennisw
As far as I am concerned, being thrust on us the choices of:

Giuliani

McCain

Thompson

Romney

Huckabee...

I guess we have choice of

More of the Same

Morosity

Moribundity

Mormonism

Moron.

My oh my, what to say about 2008 in the G.O.P.!!

41 posted on 12/13/2007 11:48:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (DUNCAN HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, N. Korea, Iran. Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Business)
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To: FreeReign
No conservatives should support these two DBM put-ups.

Don't worry, I don't plan to and won't!

42 posted on 12/14/2007 1:18:54 AM PST by Ron H. (Keeping my powder dry for that fast approaching day when we must again renew our freedoms & nation!)
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To: FreeReign
Either if nominated will split the Republican vote in the general election handing the election to the Democrats

Makes the concept behind moving primaries up earlier and earlier a bit more clear now, doesn't it?

Don't give time for the conservatives to do damage control to save their primaries while the liberal media foists false candidates on us and drives their false poll numbers.

43 posted on 12/14/2007 1:37:09 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Praise the Lord!!


44 posted on 12/14/2007 4:31:17 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: lesser_satan

You think fieldmarshaldj has it bad?
I live in Illinois and I have to put up with Billy Boys Propoganda 24-7!!

RINO Billy Boy Gag ALERT!!


45 posted on 12/14/2007 4:33:14 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: TheLion

NOT SO FAST!!!

SIMCOX/MCDC Supports Education for Children of Illegal Aliens

http://www.azstarne t.com/sn/ related/215865. php

ARIZONA DAILY STAR
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.12.2007

PHOENIX — Talk about strange bedfellows. Consider Barry Goldwater
Jr.; Minutemen founder Chris Simcox; Democratic State Rep. Pete Rios;
and Carlos Flores, head of the Mexican General Consulate, together at
a table to talk immigration over sandwiches.
What on Earth could this group agree on?
As it turns out, a lot.

Even the participants, who often land on opposite sides of the hot
immigration debate, were surprised.
At the tail end of a daylong immigration symposium in Phoenix
sponsored by the California-based Communications Institute, the
Arizona Daily Star and several other state organizations including
the University of Arizona, interests as polar opposite as those of
Simcox and Rios were able to find common ground.

“When I sat down at the table and saw the makeup, my first question
was: Why did they put me at this table?” Rios said.

“I had pretty much written him off,” Rios said of Simcox.

Rios and Flores were willing to concede the border needs to be
secured for a guest-worker plan to work.
And earlier in the day, Simcox, a controversial figure who is
credited and criticized for being the first to organize a citizen
border patrol, made what some found to be stunning statements: He
supports public education for the children of illegal immigrants and
sees the fix as not just an issue of enforcement, but of reforming
Mexico’s economy and basing the number of U.S. visas on the nation’s
labor supply.

“People have never really listened to the entire scope of what our
organization stands for,” Simcox said.
The day, filled with panel discussions and retorts from county
sheriffs and lawmakers from around the state, was not devoid of
disagreement.

Some questioned the accuracy of academic studies portraying
immigrants as a net gain for the economy — not a drain. Others
wondered whether those who want to stem the flow of illegal
immigrants are really standing behind the rule of law — or are just
scared about the “browning of America,” as Rios put it.
While this group of about 70 was able to find consensus, there was an
acknowledgment of political reality: Congress has failed to institute
federal immigration reform.

The location — downtown Phoenix — was fitting. Less than six miles
away the immigration debate is unfolding in a vivid way at M.D.
Pruitt’s Home Furnishings. The Phoenix store has attracted national
attention because of a standoff among immigration activists,
sheriff’s deputies and the store owner, who has hired off-duty
deputies to catch day-laborers.

“That’s not the way to go about it,” Simcox said, admitting he’ll
take flak from border activists for standing against the action.

“My followers end up criticizing me because I’m too soft,” he said at
one point in the day.
Arizona Daily Star Publisher and Editor John Humenik stressed
immigration is a local issue, pointing to the impact it has on the
Tucson economy and culture.

“I think our role here in Arizona and as communicators with the
newspaper is to help the rest of the country understand what is a
very local issue,” Humenik said. “It can’t be done in Washington. It
has to be done in groups like this. It has to be done in communities
like Tucson and Phoenix.”

Some of the recommendations out of the forum included asking
legislators to form a bipartisan immigration caucus, and one break-
out group suggested “eliminating the word amnesty from the
dictionary.”
But bridging the gap from a policy meeting controlled by moderators
to the partisan halls of government — either Congress or the state
Legislature — is a challenge.

“It’s very concerning to me — the rhetoric,” said State Rep. Kyrsten
Sinema, a Phoenix Democrat. “Our discussion around the issue of
immigration has never been able to be focused on real pragmatic and
practical solutions. We really need to have a well-rounded set of
options on the table.”

? Contact reporter Daniel Scarpinato at 307-4339 or
dscarpinato@ azstarnet. com.


46 posted on 12/14/2007 4:44:00 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Gilcrist can either withdraw his endorsement, or lose 100% of his credibility on illegal immigration. There is no middle ground. The records of Mike Huckabee and Dick Durbin are identical on this issue.


47 posted on 12/14/2007 5:47:45 AM PST by montag813
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To: All

Dumond case revisited - A reminder of Huckabee's role in his freedom

48 posted on 12/14/2007 7:08:49 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: FreeReign
Your post is "mindless".

Insults right off the bat in lieu of intelligent thoughts and debate? Who is really the mindless one?
49 posted on 12/14/2007 12:37:45 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall
Insults right off the bat in lieu of intelligent thoughts and debate? Who is really the mindless one?

That would be you in post #31


50 posted on 12/14/2007 2:57:14 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: dano1; Dane; dotnetfellow

Ping.


51 posted on 12/14/2007 4:37:11 PM PST by Jean S
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To: pissant
Ann Coulter was on John Gibson's show today, and she said very clearly and very loudly...

Huckabee is the Republican's Jimmy Carter!

52 posted on 12/14/2007 5:06:36 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: chicagolady
Arizona Daily Star Publisher and Editor John Humenik stressed immigration is a local issue, pointing to the impact it has on the Tucson economy and culture.

..BS!~..this clown is too close minded....it's American culture,it's American tax payers, ILLEGALS are not sitting around Tucson...day laborers living 10 in an apartment are all throughout the northeast

53 posted on 12/14/2007 5:49:25 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: montag813
We shall write to Mr. Gilchrist then, in sheer amazement and disgust, and ask him to withdraw the Huckabee endorsement ASAP or suffer the political consequences.

Bummer he will have to return the money.

54 posted on 12/14/2007 6:35:20 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (HUNTER: SOLID! On; Illegals, Trade, N. Korea, Iran/Iraq, Economy, WOT, China, Spending)
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To: donna

In addition to your points, which were well made, there are not enough bureaucrats to accomplish this feat.


55 posted on 12/14/2007 6:53:58 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
And so, "The Great Contragolpe" (Backlash) against the "Open Borders for Jesus" camp begins--in earnest.

And this Jesus Freak says "not a moment too soon."

56 posted on 12/14/2007 8:06:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: CottonBall
Nor in the general election. It'll be like having Bush all over again, pushing amnesty and massive spending. Let's not be sheep, mindlessly ignoring principles and values, following the GOP over a cliff.

Yes, yes, by all means, let's have another eight Clinton years. She won't screw up the war, abuse our civil rights, use government power to promote perversion and abortion or aything like that. And best of all, she'll never push socialized medicine, amnesty or massive spending. She'll be great!

57 posted on 12/14/2007 8:13:27 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: TxCopper

See post 57. It’s for you, too.


58 posted on 12/14/2007 8:14:29 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Caipirabob

More like every other state in the union is tired of two tiny little populations having a massive effect on who runs the other 48 states.


59 posted on 12/14/2007 8:17:36 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
And best of all, she'll never push socialized medicine, amnesty or massive spending. She'll be great!

Yes, Bush did so much better. The socialized senior prescription drug plan, 'comprehensive immigration reform' which we all know as amnesty, and spending like a drunken politician really helped the party in the '06 elections.
60 posted on 12/14/2007 9:02:27 PM PST by CottonBall
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