Trojan Dragons: China's International Cyber Warriors

The Heritage Foundation ^ | December 12, 2007 | By John J. Tkacik, Jr.

[Calpernia]

Why would you throw up an Airport in France?

[Paul Ross]

And via their computer network operations,China's clandestine intelligence collection is the top intelligence threat to America's science and technology secrets. If the Administration believes otherwise, it ought to explain to the American people why, in the face of the steady reports of Chinese cyber spying, the concern is misplaced. But it cannot simply refrain from making the judgment and sharing it with the public.

Oh, it can't, can it? I beg to differ. This Administration has demonstrated a profound disregard for the concerns of the American people. They apear to believe in the maxim that no one ever lost an election discounting the intelligence of the American electorate.

And now into the last half of the 2nd term LameDuck-In-Chief thinks he is especially off the hook.

So they can and they still do "refrain". Witness the whitewash policy already in place for the Navy port call spat over their Hong Kong visit.

I wish I could believe in the cloak-and-dagger hypothesis why we are refraining from Presidential acknowledgment of the issue. Supposedly keeping our counter-measures secret until essential need requires their exposure. But the implicit denial of the threat flies in the face of the very real damage and compromise routinely being inflicted against our cyber security.

Where the hell do they draw the line? And who says we should any longer trust their judgement? As the article says...it is all of our business...literally in the cyber-gun sights of these hacker teams. Our finances, everything. And nothing is done.

The White House is corrupt. It does not represent the America I grew up in. Clearly, on this issue, It does not represent the American People.

And sadly, it is clear the administration intends to further endanger us for a pathetically few scheckels! Apparently it is in the works to override the NSA and DIA's objections at CFIUS to the Bain Capital's / Huaewai Technology's bid to buy up 3Com...our primary cyber security firm the U.S. government relies upon.

[Constantine XIII]

I’m Bruce Banner IRL, and wouldn’t you know it, they lost my luggage.

No, they didn’t like me when I was angry. :)

[Calpernia]

ok. Don’t know what anything you posted said. You have a good one.

[DoughtyOne]

I know this is somewhat of an unpopular opinion, but we got caught with our pants down on 09/11.

Our top domestic civilian, political and military targets were left unprotected by the tens of thousands of "brilliant minds" in our government and national security agencies.  If it weren't for some brave civilians on board Flight 93, Congress or the White House would have likely been destroyed.

I don't say this to wollow in it.  I say this, because it is true, and after watching how carelessly our leaders have allowed tens of thousands of people to enter here from states where vile sects of Islam dominate, it would be impossible to claim we've learned our lesson.  Millions of unknowns later, having crossed our borders plans and destinations also unknown, we are undeniably vulnerable.

Articles like these are intended to sound alarm bells.  They may or may not be spot on, but I sure hope someone at the top is listening.  If I hear some of the same lame-ass excuses next time, that we did last time, I'm going to be one guy (figuratively) looking for ropes and low branches.

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1891445/posts
Pentagon: China Gearing Up for High-Tech Warfare

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1906555/posts
GOP urges probe in China firm deal (Hunter, Hoekstra and Sessions)

>>>Senior Pentagon officials, meanwhile, are investigating the security aspects of the announced plan for China’s Huawei Technologies and the investment firm Bain Capital Partners to buy 3Com, which makes equipment used by the Pentagon to block computer hackers, including those from the Chinese military.<<<

Tidbit for all. 3Com is the company responsible for providing the firewalls and security software to the Pentagon. Let’s keep that in mind.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1890608/posts
Chinese military hacked into Pentagon

[Paul Ross]

Nobody will tell me why we have to accept packets from .cn or why we need to have connectivity with them.

Agreed. BUT. They can still work around that...when there was the major cyber attack from China on our power grid in California, they used attacks not only from China, but North Korea (Birds of a feather) and (?) The Netherlands. Obviously exploiting unsecured computers for bot-attacks.

[Paul Ross]

Ping

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you Calpernia.

[Gorzaloon]

Agreed. BUT. They can still work around that...when there was the major cyber attack from China on our power grid in California, they used attacks not only from China, but North Korea (Birds of a feather) and (?) The Netherlands. Obviously exploiting unsecured computers for bot-attacks.

Yes, and probably thousands of them from our neighbors, thanks to all the malware out there, courtesy of our own "Enterpreneurs", the Russian Mafia, and .cn.

Truly savage enforcement would be a good start. Breaking all links to .cn would be better. Not one harmless byte has come from or gone there in a long time.

Oh, Happy "Rolex Watch" Season to all.

[Constantine XIII]

See, Calpernia, O RLY works like this:

"not only from China, but North Korea (Birds of a feather) "

Because it's obvious to the casual observer that the internet just hasn't really penetrated North Korea to any great extent. What kind of retard would launch an attack from NK when anyone with an ounce of sense would have to know that packets from there were sent by the North Korean government? Not very impressive hax0r skills, in my opinion.

LOL

Our enemies are powerful enough in reality without us blowing them up into invincible boogiemen in our minds.

[Paul Ross]

What kind of retard would launch an attack from NK when anyone with an ounce of sense would have to know that packets from there were sent by the North Korean government? Not very impressive hax0r skills, in my opinion.

Ah, but grasshopper, you miss the point.

That ham-handed approach WAS the message. A political message. It was an irrefutable evidence of the Chicom GOVERNMENT'S displeasure over being called out as a bad guy for its downing, invasion and theft of our EP3 reconaissance plane.

They basically were saying they were ready to go to war over the issue if it didn't go their way.

Last I recall, it did go their way.

And the Netherlands bot attacks were merely an extra "persuader" explaining our "commander in chief" that they were not going to be easily "switched off" if it came down to a slug-fest.

We were seeing only the tip of the iceberg of Chicom capabilities. And we saw how ill-prepared we were for these supposedly "unimpressive" attacks.

For some real laughs at the Administration continuing and deepening disconnect from reality, check out Admrial Keating's testimony for his confirmation.

[Calpernia]

I’ve not heard of O RLY, other than the airport.

And I’ve no desire to post to you. You are too difficult to follow.

Ciao

[Calpernia]

Don’t lose N. Korea in your conversation. They had EPA data and sites up on their servers for a while.

That is home to the sun king you know (GAIA)

[Paul Ross]

Don’t lose N. Korea in your conversation.

You're right.

The use of the North Korean addresses was further illustration of my claim that they are purely and simply a sock-puppet for the Chicoms.

The NK "buffer state" lives purely at the discretion of its Chinese masters...and does as it is told.

It develops nukes, or shelves the project, or sells them to Iran...it was all set up by China itself...with a rather lame degree of plausible deniability.

So China's "value" (in Mitt Romney's and Condi Rice's estimation) at "controlling" a supposedly "rogue" North Korea is misplaced and demonstrates non-comprehension of the real actors and realities of the situation.

[Constantine XIII]

I'm not going to be too upset about being e-insulted by someone with a picture of Sephiroth on their homepage. :p

[Calpernia]

I’ve no idea where I insulted you nor do I know what a Sephiroth is.

[Constantine XIII]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sephiroth&btnG=Google+Search

Sigh...

[Calpernia]

Sigh what?