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I Was on the Waterboard
Self | 12/11/2007 | Mariner

Posted on 12/11/2007 8:59:40 PM PST by Mariner

I am an honorably discharged US Military member that was subject to the Waterboard in SERE school circa 1979-1980.

I'm certain there are other ex military member that would like to join me in testifying to both the US Congress and the US Media that this procedure, while effective, is not torture.

If the majority of the American people knew that this was an act that US service members are subject to, it would disappear off the front pages of every newspaper and news show in the country.

Sign up. State you were waterboarded. Jim Robinson can collect our logins and provide our info to a brave Congress Person or member of the administration.

Let's send the dims and the media running and looking stupid while doing so.


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KEYWORDS: congress; duncanhunter; torture; waterboarding; wot
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To: Mariner

My husband is so funny. I just asked him a specific question, and he told me he couldn’t give me an answer or he’d have to kill me.

Most of what I’ve heard about SERE came from other pilots after they’d had quite a bit to drink.

What I want to know is why the media makes it sound as if waterboarding is something new; post nine eleven.


21 posted on 12/11/2007 9:21:02 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Mariner

A bump and eternal gratitude for your service and the service of all our troops, past - present and future.

Now, give ‘em hell!


22 posted on 12/11/2007 9:25:37 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: Dumb_Ox
"May I suggest that there is a qualitative difference between being subjected to waterboarding under controlled conditions where you are assured of the professional conduct of your fellow soldiers, and being subjected to waterboarding as a captured enemy combatant at the mercy of angry, determined interrogators?"

How would you know? The physical and psychological effects are probably the same. If you have never been waterboarded, you are only guessing and are not an authority on the matter.
23 posted on 12/11/2007 9:27:39 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Mariner
Put me in front of Chris Matthews and Dingy Harry.

If you're close enough would ya smack 'em for me?

24 posted on 12/11/2007 9:27:47 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

During my SERE training I was not personally afforded the pleasure of the WB, but others did. There were plenty of other indignities that were available. A regular smorgasboard.


25 posted on 12/11/2007 9:28:41 PM PST by sargunner (RIP Tonk)
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To: Mariner

Oh...people have heard that’s part of our troops training...its the donkeys trying to make something out of nothing...


26 posted on 12/11/2007 9:29:47 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: sargunner

My husband was one who experienced some of the other indignities.


27 posted on 12/11/2007 9:30:38 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
This is nothing new, and many people in our American military have been subjected to much worse while in training.

Most of us have "been there, done that."

28 posted on 12/11/2007 9:30:41 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Lancey Howard
You sound like a real buffoon, Bunky.

True, but at least I'm not aping the Khmer Rouge.

29 posted on 12/11/2007 9:30:44 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

Andrew Sullivan?


30 posted on 12/11/2007 9:32:28 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: Mariner
RE: I am an honorably discharged US Military member that was subject to the Waterboard in SERE school circa 1979-1980.

I salute your service to our nation and all the others who served in American's armed forces. And I applaud you effort to get the truth out about waterboarding.

Of course, it would do a lot better if them Liberal Democrats and their MSM cohorts ever bothered with truth, facts or ethics.

However, I support you in this effort and offer my help in any way I can.

I was never in the service. Long story I will not bore you with.

The extent of my expertise here is my serving as temporary recorder on the Southwest Kerens Water Board the fall that Poop Early went off to take the cure.

31 posted on 12/11/2007 9:32:31 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: jrooney
How would you know? The physical and psychological effects are probably the same. If you have never been waterboarded, you are only guessing and are not an authority on the matter.

By this standard, the only person who could speak to the matter would be someone who had gone through a simulated torture/interrogation session and a real one.

32 posted on 12/11/2007 9:32:39 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: REDWOOD99

Genetic fallacy?


33 posted on 12/11/2007 9:33:51 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: SamAdams76

As a southern california guy, I always thought water boarding was some type of surfing..


34 posted on 12/11/2007 9:34:43 PM PST by Stayfree (*************************EquipmentSearchEngine.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox
Hmmm....

You have been a Freeper for a very long time, so I will grant you the respect that you deserve.

I will also assume that you were in Vietnam, and if so, then your views about this subject are being honest.

35 posted on 12/11/2007 9:35:15 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Dumb_Ox
Sounds like the poster of this thread did and you tried to dismiss him. If you want to draw people to your blog, post your thoughts at DU or Kos, they will agree with your terrorist sympathizing feelings.
36 posted on 12/11/2007 9:35:54 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Mariner
Another idea—pretty far out—would be to get one of the networks to produce a realty show based on waterboarding where the contestant who holds out the longest wins. This would help sell the safety of waterboarding to television audiences. With the amount of publicity this issue has gotten lately we may hear about waterboarding being used for fraternity and athletic team initiations.
37 posted on 12/11/2007 9:36:00 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Dumb_Ox

Which of the dozens of ‘ethically dubious’ terrorist attacks that were thwarted, would you feel comfortable to have seen come to fruition?


38 posted on 12/11/2007 9:36:25 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: Mariner

Unfortunately, I can’t. However, while trying to waterski the first time, the skipper’s motor wasn’t running properly and I went 50 feet or so just under the water at about 5 mi. per hour. Does that qualify?


39 posted on 12/11/2007 9:37:30 PM PST by budwiesest (My GPS can't find stupid. Yet, it's all around me.)
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To: Mariner

You wanna see torture? Come back 5 minutes late from a 24 hour pass for doing well on a PT Test in Basic and have Drill Sargent Thornton waiting for you. I can still smell the hurl covering my chest as I ran, and did pushups, and ran, and did squat thrusts, and ran, and did situps and ran, and ran, and ran........ Well, you get the picture.


40 posted on 12/11/2007 9:38:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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