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Rudy Giuliani Will Not Win Republican Nomination, Abortion Main Reason
Life News ^ | 12/10/07 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/10/2007 4:49:38 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee

Giuliani is the kind of guy I would like to see confront the Islamofacists. I’m hoping either he, or Romney get the nomination. Fred is a good guy too, but he doesn’t seem to have much of a chance, at this point. So for me, it’s come down to Rudy or Mitt.


21 posted on 12/10/2007 5:28:49 PM PST by Signalman
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To: wagglebee

Declaration of Independence

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all
men are created equal, that they are endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit
of Happiness.


22 posted on 12/10/2007 5:29:19 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: wagglebee

I have stated before, I will only vote for Giuliani if he is the only alternative against Hillery. Sorry, but it is not even the abortion issue, he is not a Conservative. I love President Bush but I want a true Conservative this time.


23 posted on 12/10/2007 5:29:37 PM PST by sibb1213
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To: wagglebee

Wrong. I don’t like it, but, I am facing reality.


24 posted on 12/10/2007 5:30:10 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Sola Veritas

My point being, in reference to the headline, abortion is just a part of the reason to not support Rootie as a conservative.


25 posted on 12/10/2007 5:31:25 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t think Romney will be the nominee either.

Too many flip-flops.......reminds me of “perfect hair” Kerry. Too slick.


26 posted on 12/10/2007 5:34:03 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sibb1213
I will only vote for Giuliani if he is the only alternative against Hillery.

The woman Hillary or the man Hillary doesn't leave much room for a viable option.

27 posted on 12/10/2007 5:35:18 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Too many flip-flops for Romney.


28 posted on 12/10/2007 5:35:54 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Bobkk47
Fred is a good guy too, but he doesn’t seem to have much of a chance, at this point.

The fourth branch of government pushing their weight again...

29 posted on 12/10/2007 5:37:22 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Strategerist
Anyone who thinks the main reason Reagan beat Bush in 1980 was abortion is on drugs.

Then you must include Ronald Reagan in that group. Because I covered that Campaign. And in every stump speech he gave he emphasized his PRO LIFE stance.

Lots of my fellow media people felt Reagan was making a terrible mistake about being so openly pro life. The Bush people were sure that pro abortion was a good issue for them.

It is interesting to note that by 1988 Bush 41 was Anti Abortion. He figured out that any other postion would cost him the nomination and the presidency.

Reagan told me the media did not understand the voters. That those that were Pro Abortion, did not have that as their main issue. That someone could be anti abortion and still get a lot of the pro abortion voter's votes. But for the Anti Abortion group being pro abortion would cost their votes.

Reagan said in 1980 that no Republican who was pro abortion could get the nomination or be elected President.

But what would Ronald Reagan know about getting the nomination in 1980 compared to YOU!!


30 posted on 12/10/2007 5:40:04 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: wagglebee

Willard Romney has the same “credentials”


31 posted on 12/10/2007 5:47:25 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: wagglebee
I don’t think we will nominate Huck. He is likely the Howard Dean of 2008. The more they see of him they will not nominate him. That said he is plainly taking down Thompson and Romney. That leaves McCain and Rudy as the probable nominee. I guess if we hold the white house in ‘08 we will be in the strange position of being the squeaky wheel in a coalition where the moderates are having to placate us instead of the other way around. I hope every body understands that. On the immigration issue we really will have to hold them to there feet to the fire and make sure they are adamant and stay that way.
32 posted on 12/10/2007 6:07:24 PM PST by bilhosty
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To: Strategerist

Abortion has mattered to very many.

It matters to me to the point that I will never vote for Rudy. Ever. For any reason. There are many like me.


33 posted on 12/10/2007 6:10:49 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: wagglebee

And if Huckabubba wins the nomination, the GOP loses the election in 2008.


34 posted on 12/10/2007 6:21:40 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckabubba will never be president.)
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To: wagglebee

I also would be very surprised if Mike Huckabee wins the Republican nomination. Mike Huckabee also has too many things about him that upset conservatives too much for him to really have any serious chance for victory in the Presidential race. I’m hoping for a Fred Thompson/Duncan Hunter ticket in ‘08!


35 posted on 12/10/2007 6:26:24 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: wagglebee

Maybe the Republican party will survive after all.

If the bluebloods had won, they would have sucked out the party’s soul.


36 posted on 12/10/2007 6:27:52 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: E. Cartman
"And if Huckabubba wins the nomination, the GOP loses the election in 2008."

That is absolutely the truth! Exactly why the left is pushing him so hard.

37 posted on 12/10/2007 6:28:28 PM PST by TheLion
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To: jageorge72

Duncan Hunter is the one to trust.

It’s too bad pubbies have wasted time, energy, and money promoting RINOs instead.


38 posted on 12/10/2007 6:30:04 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: wagglebee

“Which is why the right to life is not covered in the Constitution, they could never envision a day when people would sanction the killing of the innocent.”

But it is:

Fifth Amendment:

“nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law;...”

XIVth Amendment:

“nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

If the mother is within the state’s jurisdiction, so is her baby.


39 posted on 12/10/2007 6:36:43 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
It’s too bad pubbies have wasted time, energy, and money promoting RINOs instead.

All kvetching aside, based on the demise of the Federalists and then the Whigs, I think the GOP is in its death throes. The nation has always had a major party Protean in its political positions (the democrats) and a major party that adhered to principles, first the Federalists, next The Whigs and then the Republicans. When the party that held to principles became like the democrat party, it died. If the GOP continues its complete abandonment of prinicple for purely for political advantage, it will wither away as the Federalists and Whigs did before it.

40 posted on 12/10/2007 6:39:03 PM PST by E. Cartman (Huckabubba will never be president.)
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