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Kids with allergies ask rights panel for lunch inspections (Nanny state - Ontario)
The National Post ^ | Friday, December 07, 2007 | Chris Wattie

Posted on 12/10/2007 12:06:40 PM PST by fanfan

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To: pby

The foolishness you refer to is on the part of people that think the world will always bend to keep their child safe from whatever substance they’re deathly allergic to.

In that case, that child will die. It is only a matter of time.

As I’m sure you’re aware, it certainly sounds like you are, the better strategy is to figure out how to live in the world as it is. Life is bigger than school lunch rooms. Life and work and people will inevitably bring exposure to nuts, or dairy, or shellfish or whatever. A way must be found to live in that world.

This nonsense of banning peanut butter from schools just gives a false sense of security that will just kill the kid a little later in life.

That’s what people mean by foolishness and “imaginary” solutions.

IMHO.


81 posted on 12/13/2007 8:23:17 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: fanfan

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Animal Tagging and SCHOOL LUNCHES???


82 posted on 12/13/2007 8:26:31 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: pby

It may seem to be increasing in frequency, but that might be another illusion. It didn’t used to be that news items were all national. Most stuff stayed as local news before the days of 24hour cable news.

Stories about allergies wouldn’t have been “news” back when news only ran a half hour every evening. But now with many vacuous hours to fill... All sorts of things become “news” that really aren’t.


83 posted on 12/13/2007 8:30:02 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: pby

It may seem to be increasing in frequency, but that might be another illusion. It didn’t used to be that news items were all national. Most stuff stayed as local news before the days of 24hour cable news.

Stories about allergies wouldn’t have been “news” back when news only ran a half hour every evening. But now with many vacuous hours to fill... All sorts of things become “news” that really aren’t.


84 posted on 12/13/2007 8:32:17 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Peanut allergies are pretty intense.

Kids have gone into anaphylactic shock from being hit in the face by a PB cookie. They can die from eating a food product manufactured in the same building as other foods made with peanuts. You have to read labels like you're a CSI.

Writing menus for this allergy is a nightmare.

Honestly, even separation wouldn’t be enough for the really high risks kids.

They’d need to stay at home.

85 posted on 12/13/2007 8:36:58 PM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: Ramius

That’s a possibility. Plus kids died for no reason at times.

Another theory is that peanuts and peanut products had/have saturated the food industry. The nuts, butter and oil are in 1000’s of food products— thickeners, fillers, emulsifiers, stabilizing agents etc. For some reason the body of these kids react to the peanut protein.

One argument is too much exposure that that particular protein too soon. In one meal you can eat a PBJ sandwich where the bread has peanut residue, the chips are fried in peanut oil and the cookie was peanuts or was made in the same vat after PNB cookies were made.

Whatver. I know that it isn’t a minor allergy in most kids -— they don’t itch, they stop breathing.


86 posted on 12/13/2007 8:47:41 PM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: petitfour
medication such as ICY HOT should not be administered or worn when the wearer will be in public

So, I should stay in my house, when I use ICY HOT on my knee.

Sorry, I can't come into work today as I am medicated.

87 posted on 12/13/2007 9:53:00 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: Ramius
I agree with you that it is foolishness to expect the "world to bend"...that is why I said I disagree with the nanny state approach.

I also agree with you that completely eliminating peanut products from the school causes a false sense of security...and I think the statistics bear that out as the highest number of related deaths are in the 13-17 year old age group.

I took issue with calling the life-threatening peanut allergy an "imaginary ailment" (he didn't call it an imaginary solution).

88 posted on 12/14/2007 6:34:30 AM PST by pby
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To: elkfersupper
LOL.

Since my kid is only 11, he will have to wait to go one up on the .45 Cal.

He has said that he wants a .50 Cal. sniper rifle, though.

89 posted on 12/14/2007 6:39:27 AM PST by pby
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To: Ramius
It may seem to be increasing in frequency, but that might be another illusion.

Um...No.

Why do people, who have no clue about the associated medical studies, make comments like this?

I posted info. earlier...but here is some additional info. from Duke:

RALEIGH, N.C. - Potentially life-threatening peanut allergies are afflicting children at a younger age than they did 10 years ago.

Researchers at Duke University Medical Center found that children born after 2000 had their first adverse reaction to peanuts at a median age of 14 months, almost a year younger than the previous median age of 2.

Some pediatricians suggest withholding peanut products until children reach age 3.

The allergy is still relatively rare, affecting about 1.8 million people in the U.S. But researchers say the numbers are rising, especially among children. Some studies even suggest that the number of afflicted children under age 5 has doubled since 1997, though researchers aren't sure why.

My son had is first reaction to a peanut product at 18 months of age.

I had peanut butter toast for breakfast and then brushed my teeth. Before leaving for work, ten minutes to fifteen minutes after brushing my teeth, I kissed him good-bye (on the cheek) and then my wife. When we looked back down at him, about 20 seconds later, his entire face had broken out in hives.

No "illusions", no "imaginary ailments" just hard medical/scientific fact through scientific study and real-life experience.

90 posted on 12/14/2007 8:15:45 AM PST by pby
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To: pby

I don’t deny that there may be more allergies being diagnosed. All I said was that the media hypes stories nationally that never used to be national news. This does create illusions of crises when the change in nominal cases is perhaps not so great. It’s what they do. They hype things for a living.

I do think it is curious that we don’t seem to understand the mechanisms of allergy very well. Some more research of the root causes and treatments for such allergies would be time and money well spent.


91 posted on 12/14/2007 8:33:35 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
I didn't say that this was a crisis situation. In response to another poster's question, I posted that, according to scientific study, there was an increase of the frequency of this life-threatening allergy...and there is (unrelated to anything that the media may be, or may not be, doing).

...when the change in nominal cases is perhaps not so great.

The doubling of cases between 1997 and 2002/2003 is not just nominal (at least the medical field doesn't think so).

92 posted on 12/14/2007 9:35:12 AM PST by pby
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To: najida

I agree with your last sentence, if they are that brittle. I don’t like the idea, but it is for their safety.


93 posted on 12/14/2007 10:41:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: razorback-bert

If your knee is going to be exposed to other people, then maybe you should think twice. If your knee is going to touch the door handle (hah) or chairs that others use, then don’t use it. Take a pill.

You could always cover up the Icy Hot so that you don’t expose others. But then you would be using the product against manufacturer’s instructions. However, I doubt that the manufacturer is interested in other people taking the medication contrary to their wishes.


94 posted on 12/14/2007 11:33:19 AM PST by petitfour
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To: pby
Since my kid is only 11, he will have to wait to go one up on the .45 Cal.

My grandkid was born last week, but he'll grow into it.

95 posted on 12/14/2007 8:12:02 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Have a good Christmas and enjoy your new grandkid!


96 posted on 12/15/2007 10:38:46 AM PST by pby
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