Posted on 12/09/2007 2:06:22 PM PST by Coleus
In the movie, "the Magisterion" is a group that resembles the Catholic church and it "wants to control you." One of the characters, the Evil Emperon, even looks like the current pope, Pope Benedict. Other characterizations that are not good are "daemons," which are the human characters' animal companions or spiritual counterparts. They seem cuddly and friendly but they are in fact personal demons which Pullman does not really disguise.
Overall, Michael says this movie is artistically well done, entertaining, and skillfully crafted. If you just care about being entertained and not the message, this film is for you. However, there are questionable messages in it and you should care about them. On one level the movie is very cautious with kids. With its PG-13 rating, it seems to be sensitive with the more violent scenes. For example, there is a battle with two of the Ice Bears, and there is no bloodshed. However, the movie is not sensitive as far as witches being presented as good and people that represent the church being portrayed as very bad. The production of the movie was very expensive, and it has come out in a crowded movie market. Michael says the film's makers are worried about that. They want the faith community to publicly boycott the film, because they need the publicity and attention so people will see the movie. Michael's advice for the faith community is not to give them a boycott, but to stay home and wait for the new Narnia movie which will be out in May 2008.
THE GOLDEN COMPASS, THE STORY
Philip Pullman started His Dark Materials trilogy in 1993. They are international best sellers in the young adult market with a ready made audience for the movie. Pullman is an avowed atheist who wrote the trilogy because he was upset by the Christian evangelism in C.S. Lewis, The Chronicles of Narnia. The plot of 'The Golden Compass' revolves around spiritism, magical thinking, mysterious visions, and parallel worlds. The golden compass of the title is a tool of divination. In the books, Pullman represents God as a decrepit and perverse angel who captures the dead in a prison camp afterlife.
The story centers on Lyra, a young girl living at Jordan College in the Oxford of an alternate world where everyone is accompanied by a daemon, a physical representation of their soul in animal form. One morning, Lyra's school Master calls her urgently into his office and gives her a strange instrument called an Alethiometer (the golden compass). He tells her that it is capable of telling the truth but that it is up to her to read it. He also pleads with her to keep the Alethiometer to herself. Lyra then finds herself in a world where she must fight against evil, and here lies the controversy. Lyra is the "chosen child" who must do battle with evil. But in this story, the things that are good are evil (the church is the Magisterion, the bad group trying to gain control of all) and evil is good (daemons and witches are allies.)
When money tracking firms greet opening numbers with “it’s not an out-and-out debacle” you know the film isn’t doing as well as expected.
This movie never would have made my radar screen except for all the chatter about Pullman. This caused me to think a bit and have concluded that prominant atheists strike me as an unhappy lot. Yet, it's not just that they seem unhappy. It's more that they want for all day to share their unhappiness with as wide an audience as they can.
Since I’ve already seen one movie this year, I’ve used up my allotment for 2007. If, and only if, I decide to see the movie, I’ll wait until next year.
Excellent advice.
I’d never knowingly watch something with an unbeliever message anway.
lily....ain’t even gonna watch it when it comes on TV!!!!
“demon” is derived from the more general Greek term, “daimon.”
The entry in Liddell and Scott includes:
II. daimones, in Hes. [ Hesiod ], are the souls of men of the Golden age, forming the link between gods and men:- later, of any departed souls, Lat. manes, lemures, Luc. [ Lucretius ]
But a true atheist would believe there is, no god, no, spiritualism, magical thinking, mysterious visions, no divination, no soul, but Pullman has them all and more
He just has traditional evil as good and good as evil
The guy doesn't sound like a true atheist but a believer on the Satanic side
“Actually it seems to me that most atheists are an unhappy lot, not just the prominent ones. If find it fascinating that they are so sure of themselves, yet always want to debate, argue or convince you of their point of view. On the other had, there seems to be a great number of people who are Believers, who although they may have doubts and uncertainty, seem to be a much happier lot overall and are much less argumentative.”
Actually, I think the exact opposite is true. Atheists are happy people who have no problem at all with others practicing whatever religion they want. The self proclaimed atheists who are upset actually do practice a religion of some sort, the forerunners seem to be either communism (ACLU), environment, or both. A true atheist doesn’t acknowledge religion, so therefore doesn’t get angry about it.
ping
Dec 9, 2007 1:00 pm US/Pacific
'Golden Compass' Tops Box Office With Modest $26M
LOS ANGELES (AP) ― "The Golden Compass" proved a mild fantasy at the box office, pulling about $26 million this weekend. That's a modest opening weekend compared to such recent December heavyweights as "The Lord of the Rings" and "The Chronicles of Narnia" flicks. New Line Cinema's "The Golden Compass," whose cast includes Nicole Kidman and Daniel Craig, also took in $55 million overseas since it began opening Wednesday in 25 other countries.
Disney's "Enchanted," the number one movie the previous two weekends, fell to second-place with $10.7 million, raising its total to $83.9 million. New Line, which had enormous success with its three "Lord of the Rings" films, had hoped for more out of "The Golden Compass," expecting it to reach at least $30 million domestically over its first weekend.
The film follows the adventures of an orphan girl hurled into a parallel world of witches, strange flying machines and talking polar bears. It cost $180 million to make.
Atheists have always seemed such miserable, nasty characters they have never attracted people to jump on their bandwagon.
Yesterday, I heard one caller-in on a radio show saying he took his young children to see the movie and it bored them silly. Impossible to follow and the CGI was cheesy.
Though that same reviewer said Sam Elliot did a great job as a fantasy-world cowboy character—it was as if he was acting in a different movie.
Don't be silly. He called them 'daemons' for a reason.
Free will? You mean as in young thirteen year olds engaging in sexual relations as in the end of the third book?
I think this movie goes for a much more complex and evil depiction than you think.
If you’ve ever read about documented cases of possesion, “familiars” or “demons” are common.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04713a.htm
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04711a.htm
I’m not a flake, but there are documented cases in modern times. This movie, attacking Christianity, would naturally form an alliance with Christianity’s oldest enemy. The movie makers are truly playing with fire.
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