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The faltering Hillary Clinton campaign
International Herald Tribune ^ | 12/9/07 | Albert Hunt

Posted on 12/09/2007 9:11:05 AM PST by LdSentinal

To appreciate Hillary Clinton's fundamental political problem, consider the 11 Democrats from Philadelphia who gathered last week to discuss the U.S. presidential race, almost all of whom would vote for her in a general election.

The focus group was moderated by an expert on such forums, the Democratic pollster Peter Hart. The participants were informed and enthusiastic about their party's prospects, had no interest in the Republicans or third-party candidates and were about equally balanced between the front-runners, Clinton and Senator Barack Obama of Illinois.

When Hart pushed the group during a two-hour conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of the two candidates, a different picture emerged.

Obama, they worried, can't win the nomination; voters aren't ready for an African-American president (a point expressed most directly by the two black women participants), and he may not be sufficiently experienced.

A couple of victories in Iowa and New Hampshire would cure most of those problems.

Those are a lot tougher to overcome.

It was revealing, too, when Hart pushed them to envision these senators as leaders of the country or, as he put it, their "boss." Obama, they say, would be inspirational, motivating, charismatic and compassionate. After praising Clinton's experience and intelligence, they say she would be demanding, difficult, maybe even a little scary.

Candor and authenticity were repeatedly cited. "I don't feel like I look at her and see someone who's telling me the whole truth," said Allison Lowrey, a 30-year-old human resources consultant from Philadelphia. "I'd like to see her approach a problem without the polls" helping her make a decision, said Andrew Alebergo, a 39-year-old tanning-salon operator.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008dncprimary; nomination; obama; primary
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1 posted on 12/09/2007 9:11:07 AM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

Will the Hillary cackle be the Howard Dean scream?


2 posted on 12/09/2007 9:15:11 AM PST by tips up
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To: LdSentinal

There are no words to adequately describe the utter dispicableness of this vile and detestable woman


3 posted on 12/09/2007 9:17:59 AM PST by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: tips up
Will the Hillary cackle be the Howard Dean scream?

Maybe Rush or Hannity could put up some soundbites.

4 posted on 12/09/2007 9:19:13 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: LdSentinal

Funny that you see all these stories in a UK PAPER, but NEVER in a U.S. one, isn’t it?


5 posted on 12/09/2007 9:19:29 AM PST by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: tcrlaf

Not surprising, the Klintonistas are media darlings in this country. The most failed (ok, Carter was worse) and scandalous presidency of the 20th century they still sing his praises. Baffling.


6 posted on 12/09/2007 9:22:29 AM PST by stm (Fred Thompson in 08!)
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To: tips up

There’s still time for her to have her “scream” moment

more like a “screech”, though.

Her inability to lie convincing, when caught in a lie, will eventually catch the true Beast on tape that the media can’t ignore.

Bubba is a pathological liar

Hillary is a calculating one


7 posted on 12/09/2007 9:22:38 AM PST by digger48
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To: LdSentinal
I think it's more than just wheels coming off the train.

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8 posted on 12/09/2007 9:24:11 AM PST by AdvisorB ("A Hillary Clinton presidency would result in a weaker economy and a weaker America" Dick Morris)
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To: LdSentinal
It was revealing, too, when Hart pushed them to envision these senators as leaders of the country or, as he put it, their "boss."

Anybody who sees an elected official as their "boss" is already a slave. Peter Hart is contemptible.

9 posted on 12/09/2007 9:27:38 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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10 posted on 12/09/2007 9:30:13 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: digger48
Candor and authenticity were repeatedly cited. "I don't feel like I look at her and see someone who's telling me the whole truth," said Allison Lowrey, a 30-year-old human resources consultant from Philadelphia.

Everybody knows one thing she's definitely lying about:

She pretends to love and admire her husband so she can get elected but actually despises him...

11 posted on 12/09/2007 9:30:22 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t see any problem .. we already know the American media is willing to betray their country to support Hillary.

They are hanging themselves .. I wouldn’t get in the way.


12 posted on 12/09/2007 9:31:46 AM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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To: LdSentinal
"I'd like to see her approach a problem without the polls" helping her make a decision..."

Ouch!

13 posted on 12/09/2007 9:33:29 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: LdSentinal
Her dirt on Obama's drug use was nixed by an insider, who feed it to Obama.

Wonder if she has anything in the bag for Oprah?

14 posted on 12/09/2007 9:36:24 AM PST by sausageseller (http://coolblue.typepad.com/the_cool_blue_blog/)
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To: LdSentinal
Hillary Clinton could overcome a lot of things but not her lack of human warmth and the perception she plays fast and loose with the truth.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 12/09/2007 9:36:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: LdSentinal
FTA: And her campaign has a near-obsession with what it perceives as a hostile press. They were incensed by a story in The New York Times that reported skepticism about Hillary's contention that her proposal to overhaul health care would help a lot more people than the plan of her rival.

That she thinks that the Press is hostile to her is symptomatic of her paranoia and demand for complete control. If she gets elected, we will have censorship like we have never seen before. Talk radio would be the first to go.

16 posted on 12/09/2007 9:37:32 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: digger48

There has been a change in Hillary when giving a speech. In the past, she sounded more like Hitler. Starting out soft spoken and reasonable. As her talks went on, she would get louder and louder and blamed everything on the President.....even though he isn’t running. I think her people have forced her to tone it down. One thing I see coming.....if Obama continues to get more and more popular, Hillary will blame her own people, start yelling and screaming at them. At that point, they will leave her in mass.


17 posted on 12/09/2007 9:41:44 AM PST by RC2
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To: LdSentinal

BJ Clinton’s baggage is a joke.

If I had one iota of artistic ability, I would have BJ on
his last day in office with one in tray with Chinese and
other money and two out trays.
One out tray with secrets and the other with pardons.

A packed suitcase behind him with Hillary sticking out
holding White House china.


18 posted on 12/09/2007 9:44:03 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: digger48
Her inability to lie convincing, when caught in a lie...

Quite a little problem for a pathological liar, not to be a convincing liar that is.

One of Hillary's biggest problems is that she must conceal her most diabolical plans until after the presidential election. Thus, absolutely everything she campaigns on MUST be a lie.

(She can't come out and say she's going to do a full Hugo.)

19 posted on 12/09/2007 9:47:22 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: LdSentinal

Sometimes you even have to “click” an Al Hunt column to get some insights into the lunatic liberal mindset — that’s what this article does rather effectively, I suspect. It points to the Dems delicious dilemma: cast their lot with the inexperienced Obama (I loved Dick Armey’s very unpolitic conclusion: “He’s a joke!”) or go with the completely untrustworthy, calculating, divisive, and horrible person they know Hillary to be.

Way to go, Al! You’ve finally don’t some honest reporting. Put this down as a first!


20 posted on 12/09/2007 9:48:57 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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