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How Environmentalists Intend to Rule the World
Sovereignty ^ | Fall 2007 | Ron Arnold

Posted on 12/09/2007 4:51:49 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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We need to either dissolve the U.N. or get it out of the U.S.

I didn't know there was a boycott against Burger King and Home Depot. If I had known, I would have went to BK and Home Depot more often.

Odd that I didn't see any mention of firearms. Firearms will be a problem for Randall and his eco-communists.

5.56mm

21 posted on 12/09/2007 5:59:13 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bumping for later read. In the meantime music to read this thread by...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughqjbzx2Fk


22 posted on 12/09/2007 6:03:39 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Our local change agents have begun calling it *collective capitalism* and the explaination is “We all own everything.”

Unspoken is that while ownership is collective, control is closely held by a self appointed cadre that is composed of inheritors and politically savvy owners of eco-businesses(largest organic cooperative in the country and various spinoffs, including alternative energy). The two are often the same, as the inheritors used their family connections to start their businesses.

Control people’s source of income and you can control them. It plays out in reality as the same old company store mentality.


23 posted on 12/09/2007 6:16:54 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

We’re well on our way toward collective control of resources. Try mining more than 250 tons of coal on your own land in a year and see what happens.


24 posted on 12/09/2007 6:28:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Do Ron Paul supporters ever stop and realize that a “President Ron Paul” would face a Congress that was COMPLETELY dead-set against him? That he would be stymied at every turn and be completely unable to get anything done? In our system “a president proposes but the Congress disposes” as they say. Or would Paul rule by executive fiat?”

I don’t think they care. “RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!”

On a deeper level, I think that Ron Paul is tapping into the same undercurrent as did Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan. I asked a Brigadier the same questions you posed and was told that Pat would call together the leaders of the house and senate and would ‘TELL THEM’ to do what he wanted and these leaders would be so ‘SCARED’ of Pat that they would immediately do everything Pat wanted.

If you read closely RP positions, you’ll find that he wants nothing less than the complete dismantleing of the federal government. His supporters want to cripple, paralyze, and destroy the federal government. They see a federal govenment stalement as a good thing.

But, on another level, I don’t think too many of RP supportes really care whether he wins or not. They just want someone to vote for some one that says the things they want to hear. Feeling good is more important than winning.

Having said all that. If RP were to get 50% of the vote, then he would have something going for him and it is likely that might lead to a change in the composition of Congress. The problem is 50% of the voters really don’t want to see the destruction of the federal government. If they did, I think it far more likely they would have something much different than Ron Paul in mind. Some one more like Chavez.


25 posted on 12/09/2007 6:29:34 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: M Kehoe

Firearms is hidden under the Healthy People 2010 initiative:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1563271/posts?page=108#108

Healthy People 2010 is the vehicle that is being used to carry the grants for the UN.


26 posted on 12/09/2007 6:29:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: tanknetter

“But remember that from a practical perspective what really gave Communism its big boost was the fact that the Communists weren’t really fighting “capitalism” ... they were fighting oppressive monarchies like the Tsars (and later authoritarian dictatorships such as in Cuba) that had market elements to their economies. There was a crisis/urgency element that gave the Communists their entry into governance.”

Granted. But I was discussing communist theory about the inevitable collapse of capitalism. That capitalists would squeeze the workers for profit until, out of desperations, they would revolt and install a socialist government. In that light, the communists could portray the Tsar as imposing the same kind of living standards as would the capitalists.


27 posted on 12/09/2007 6:36:15 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Ron Paul - building a bridge to the 19th century.)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for the link. Good work on that thread.

5.56mm

28 posted on 12/09/2007 6:36:36 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rush puts it more bluntly and succinctly........"the environmental movement became the new home of Communists after the end of the Cold War."

Leni

29 posted on 12/09/2007 6:41:46 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: DugwayDuke
I note that Ron Paul would support the dismantleing these international organizations too.

Ah, true but he would first remove the US from the UN so I fail to see your point.

30 posted on 12/09/2007 6:57:11 AM PST by rb22982
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One-world Marxist rule by any other name...


31 posted on 12/09/2007 7:08:55 AM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark


32 posted on 12/09/2007 7:09:06 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Calpernia

While I am not much for global conspiracy theories, there is no doubt that the environmentalist groups are dominated by radical socialists, communists and the far left who would be all too happy to use environmentalism as a means to destroy capitalism and free enterprise.


33 posted on 12/09/2007 7:43:54 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

It is getting harder and harder to call it a theory with so much data backing it up.


34 posted on 12/09/2007 8:28:15 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: M Kehoe

Since that thread, they now have their own domain, http://healthypeople.gov

Surf it thoroughly. It has everything from data tracking to Healthy Schools and Communities.


35 posted on 12/09/2007 8:29:56 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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The bastards won in the classroom long ago.


36 posted on 12/09/2007 8:32:16 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Nextrush

More like the architect.


37 posted on 12/09/2007 8:45:37 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many of the ideas herein were outlined in an article in the NYTimes on March 7, 1969.

I had to separate myself from “environmentalism” in 1970 when it became obvious that the careerists and totalitarians moved in and could not be removed.

It’s totalitarianism versus the sovereignty of regions with borders.


38 posted on 12/09/2007 8:58:13 AM PST by Poincare
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Saved for later


39 posted on 12/09/2007 10:48:10 AM PST by MetaThought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


40 posted on 12/09/2007 1:13:48 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Algore - there's not a more priggish, sanctimonious moral scold of a church lady anywhere.)
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