Been there, done that.
Posted on 12/08/2007 9:07:36 PM PST by Flavius
British spy chiefs have grave doubts that Iran has mothballed its nuclear weapons programme, as a US intelligence report claimed last week, and believe the CIA has been hoodwinked by Teheran.
Iran 'hoodwinked' CIA over nuclear plans Analysts believe that Iranian staff, knowing their phones were tapped, deliberately gave misinformation
The timing of the CIA report has also provoked fury in the British Government, where officials believe it has undermined efforts to impose tough new sanctions on Iran and made an Israeli attack on its nuclear facilities more likely.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Couple weeks ago, I read in one of the lestists website that Chomsky scolded the European Union for not keeping their promise to help Iran after it stopped the nuclear program in 2003. I didn’t think it’s an issue until I saw the CIA report. Did Chomsky get internal memo from CIA, or from Iran?
Well perhaps all this is a good thing.
The CIA is looking like a bunch of fools - big surprise...
No Europe will be forced to carry its own water, at least for a little while...
Ack...
Make that “Now Europe ...”
bimp
Is a “bimp” like a pimp or is it a bump without the umph?
It’s like bimb them already :)
Makes me wonder if that wasn't the intention of this latest "revelation" regarding Iran....either that, or it was engineered to give Israel a clear, unfettered avenue to do the deed that must be done....
No kidding. Its never too late. I wish one of Bush's last acts would be a top down purge of all the lefties in State & CIA.
Great new tagline Waspman.
My son works with machanic engineers, and he says that he loves it when he can prove them wrong! He says they never take it well either.
I have an MSEE and have had lots of Ph.D.’s have worked for me at one time or another.
It’s unusual for someone to say, if you want to get something done, “Let’s ask Dr. Soandso to do it.” I have known some really good Ph.D.’s, sharp and results oriented in all fairness. I do recall one guy who had a Ph.D. in physics from one the world’s most prestigous schools and was the chairman of the E.E. department at an Ivy League school who joined our company. (I worked with him, but he did not work for me, nor I for him.) He couldn’t get anything done and only lasted a year.
I’m results oriented, and don’t care if someone proves me wrong if it gets the job done. What I care about is results, a good job done efficiently.
No one likes a wisenheimer, someone who’s out to prove you wrong (and who wastes your time with endless discussions of first principles.) I also don’t like to do other people’s homework for them or to try explain something to someone who is in no position to understand (e.g., explain Fourier Transforms to someone who doesn’t undertand high school algebra) or is just trying to be difficult.
The point is to remain focused on results, be a team player. A good organization recognizes and treasures people like that.
The legacy CIA staff holdovers from the Clinton ERA otherwise know as “The Enemy Within”.
Why weren’t they purged 7 years ago?
i guess i didn’t explain well...there is one engineer he works alot with, who wears his phd like a coat. My son saved this engineer’s company over 10 million dollars because he found fault in this bllueprint from this phd, this one engineer belittled my son son because he didn’t have a phd and who did he think he was? My son called the company’s head engineer asked him to come over and look at the fault he had found, and if he wanted the machine to be built with the fault, fine, he would. Needless to say, the head engineer agreed with my son when he saw what the fault was. The 10 million dollar machine was built the right way.
Good job. Yeah, I see the situation more clearly now. I remember an anecdote (I didn’t personally witness this) where a women tried to pull technical rank to get her way. Needless to say that didn’t go over well. No one is allowed to say “I’m right because I’m a Ph.D.” You need to site published authorities, laws of physics, experience, what have you.
Academic credentials can get in the door, but you need to deliver. The more a person makes a fetish about his academic credentials, the more I worry about his performance.
1940s answer: Wonder why Philby works for British Intelligence if he hates the work it does...
Universities exist to provide employment for people who can’t make a liking with their hands or their heads.
Read this based on recently declassified CIA documents. They sound like the keystone cops.
Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA by Tim Weiner
Agree 100%. The majority (not all) of Ph.Ds holders cannot achieve practical results but rather do endless research and waste tremendous amount of money. The CIA goes and recruit what they think to be the best and the brightest by recruiting people with Ph.Ds from prestigious universities and colleges and they delude themselves into believing they have and are hiring the best spies and analysts. In their arrogance they are screwing things beyond any recognition. They live in a Hollywood fantasy of being the Super Spies portrayed in movies. The National Security of the US is not a place for delusional arrogant people but very unfortunately we have a lot of this type of people entrusted in the US National Security.
It just means that they have a nuclear weapons program!
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