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(Baltimore) MTA looks at racial role in city bus attack
Baltimore Sun ^ | 7 December 2007 | Michael Dresser

Posted on 12/07/2007 6:51:44 AM PST by Moose4

Maryland Transit Administration Police said last night that they have found no evidence that the severe beating of a 26-year-old woman on a city bus this week was provoked and that they are investigating the attack as a possible racially motivated hate crime.

Nine middle school students have been charged as juveniles with aggravated assault and destruction of property in the Tuesday afternoon attack on a woman and her male companion on the No. 27 bus.

Police said yesterday that they have determined that there were two additional victims in the case - a third passenger and the bus operator who came to his assistance.

Investigators were examining video from a surveillance camera on the bus but had not completed their analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: baltimore; beating; bus; getwhitey
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To: somfphite

“Where is Al Sharphead?”

He and Jesse Jacka$$on are probably holding back until they find a way to turn this around and blame it on whitey.


41 posted on 12/07/2007 7:28:40 AM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: rogue yam

My big issue is with the unspoken assumption that use of the “N-word” justifies a violent response. This has become quite accepted in our society. It’s wrong. The appropriate response to words you dislike is more words, not violence.


42 posted on 12/07/2007 7:31:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: STONEWALLS

Baltimore is no better or worse than any big city. Some neighborhoods should be avoided...just like every other city. 800 block west 33rd street...I would not hesitate to go here. Right near Hopkins.


43 posted on 12/07/2007 7:32:13 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: poobear

No, the age relative to the schooling just tells you the kind of delinquents they are.


44 posted on 12/07/2007 7:32:26 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: STONEWALLS

...Baltimore is NOT a safe city....it is a violent place to be avoided....
___________

Chuckling a bit at the melodrama above.

Sorry - Baltimoron born and bred. Been here my whole life. Not to detract from the seriousness of this event (Ed Norris was all over this yesterday on his radio program), Baltimore is an extremely, major league dangerous city for those involved in the drug trade. Any look at the demographics and locations of the God awful number of murders that occur here can see that.

For those NOT involved in the drug trade as buyers or sellers, Baltimore is pretty much like any other big city. There are swaths of the city to be avoided, but there are a number of areas (Canton, Fells Point, Inner Harbor, Federal Hill, among others) that are really OK.

{Travel Brochure Mode OFF)


45 posted on 12/07/2007 7:32:34 AM PST by dmz
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To: JZelle
"A leading local transit advocate said yesterday that he generally agrees the MTA system is safe but said riders have come to dread certain bus runs called "trippers" that take city youths to and from school. The No. 27 bus on which Tuesday's assault occurred was such a run - with its starting point at the Poole school as classes let out."

Can't you just imagine what it is like inside Poole school??

46 posted on 12/07/2007 7:34:49 AM PST by chs68
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To: ichabod1

It happened again last week when I heard some other local scumbag crime story. Some idiot called the perp “gentleman”.

It POs me.

What’s really irritating is not that it’s used at all, but you NEVER hear that word used for other men in any other every-day discussion, on the street or on TV. But it’s sure common when talking about thugs!


47 posted on 12/07/2007 7:36:40 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: rogue yam

You were on that other thread. Go to that Examiner article and look at its “related articles”.


48 posted on 12/07/2007 7:37:30 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: somfphite
But that flies in the face of what the woman told MTA police.

It also flies in the face of anything resembling common sense.

What is the likelihood that a woman, even with a companion, would deliberately provoke a large group of teens in a situation where escape would be difficult at best? I'd say that it's vanishingly small.

49 posted on 12/07/2007 7:39:29 AM PST by Bob
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To: Sherman Logan

Exactly. I heard about this more just this morning (that the oh-so-horrid “N-word” was thrown out) and have the same view. This justifies GANGING UP on someONE and beating the tar out of them?

Read the last sentence/quote of this very article for some insight into this whole idea.

I’m sick & tired of this being treated as the very worst crime you can ever do (oops, except maybe drawing a “noose”).


50 posted on 12/07/2007 7:40:44 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: somfphite
I heard she used the N word and spat on the kids...

Well...there's your hate crime right there.

</sarcasm>

51 posted on 12/07/2007 7:42:23 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Res firma mitescere nescit)
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To: gate2wire

I was thinking about the great hospitals, and wondering if they will ever think of picking up and going outside the city limits. Hopkins the hospital, or the college? (I think you mean hospital, as the college is just above 39th.) Hopkins’ area is still not fantastic. Neither is UM’s. I wouldn’t blame them all for picking up and moving to the county, before they get dragged down by the ghettoes.


52 posted on 12/07/2007 7:43:35 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Sherman Logan
My big issue is with the unspoken assumption that use of the “N-word” justifies a violent response. This has become quite accepted in our society. It’s wrong. The appropriate response to words you dislike is more words, not violence.

Exactly. We no longer assume that a victim of rape is "asking for it" if she wears a short skirt or refuses to have sex after a man has taken her out on a date. Why should the "n-word" or any other word or words for that matter justify violence?

A large part of the problem is that young blacks are taught they are the ultimate victims, and therefore anything they do in response to any real or perceived, current or past slight is justified. In the end, victimhood strips them of their humanity by taking away their free will and accountability. There are those who profit by such poisonous hate, and they do not have to live with the fallout.

53 posted on 12/07/2007 7:44:17 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: dmz

You are correct, of course. But, it’s not close to what it used to be, if you ask my mother.


54 posted on 12/07/2007 7:44:37 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: chs68

Article said no problem with Poole.


55 posted on 12/07/2007 7:45:07 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

This neighborhood is just SW of the college. I wouldn’t go there at night but during the day, no problem. Of course, after hearing this story, I would avoid times of day when school is letting out. :-)


56 posted on 12/07/2007 7:47:02 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Article said no problem with Poole.”

Apparently, there aren’t any whites at Poole to beat up.


57 posted on 12/07/2007 7:48:44 AM PST by JZelle
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To: chs68

After reviewing the school (difficult), it seems it is in Hampden, which is noted as a nice place.


58 posted on 12/07/2007 7:48:48 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: JZelle

See post 58.


59 posted on 12/07/2007 7:50:21 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Bob

Bus Attack A Hate Crime Or Provoked By Victim?
Friday, December 07, 2007
WBAL Radio and The Associated Press

Maryland Transit Administration Police are investigating Tuesday’s attack aboard a Baltimore bus as a hate crime.

Twenty-six-year-old Sarah Kreager suffered broken facial bones and other injuries after she was punched, kicked and dragged off the bus by nine middle school students. A man with Kreager, Troy Ellis, was also beaten.

Kreager and Ellis are white and the students are black.

Transit police say they have found no evidence that the attack was provoked. They continue to examine video from a surveillance camera on the bus.

But some City middle school students are disputing the police version of this week’s assault of a woman on an MTA bus.

The Examiner is reporting that some Poole Middle School students who were on the Number 27 bus at around 3 on Tuesday say the 26-year-old woman started the fight and used the “N” word.

The students say the woman and her boyfriend started the fight that left the woman with broken bones in her left eye socket and other injuries to her head.

One of students who rides that bus says the woman used the “N” word and punched one of the students riding the bus.

But that flies in the face of what the woman told MTA police.

The students are charged with aggravated assault and destruction of property. Police say the teens could face additional charges. Police have identified two additional victims, a third passenger and the bus driver.


60 posted on 12/07/2007 7:51:08 AM PST by somfphite (We gotta do it, cause no one else will!)
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