Posted on 12/06/2007 9:41:16 AM PST by NYer
Now that’s funny...
In addition to the crozier on the mitre, I think the clasps on the cope are Celtic crosses. Episcopal Church used to be a redundancy. Now it's an oxymoron.
It's very pleasant here, and the priests and people believe God's word and don't try to rewrite the Bible to suit themselves.
Let’s not forget the “Frisbyterians”. They believe that when you die, your soul lands up on a roof and you can’t get it back.
Katharine Jefferts Schori, presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church, urged Schofield in a letter earlier this week not to pull his flock out, saying “the church will never change if dissenters withdraw from the table.”
As with all institutions that no longer act in the interest of the majority of their constituents (e.g., Congress, General Motors, National church leaderships — Episcopals, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists), you cannot change these groups from within. Shun them at the very least, fight them in court, and in the end, walk away and take your money with you. You may lose your church building and property, but so what. To stay for those kind of reasons would make Jesus pitch a hissy if he were here. What is most reprehensible about people like Ms. Schori and that dingbat Archbishop of Canterbury, they believe that the Bible, like our Constitution, is a living breathing document that changes with the times. The more things change the more they stay the same, however. The Bishop of New Hampshire did not invent his Gay Pagan lifestyle posing under the protection of liberal Christian openness to “you can do no wrong because nothing is ever wrong.” He should have been ineligible for his post simply based on his action of divorcing his wife and leaving his family. That would be totally Biblical and fulfilling the definition of what a Church leader is NOT. Does this mean we want Gays barred from joining churches? Absolutely not. I am simply talking about Church leaders, and they are a dismal lot at the National level. Everyone in such a compromised church should grow a pair and WALK!
So far 8 parishes in the Episcopal Diocese of San Diego have left and joined the Anglican Communion
We're members of a messianic Jewish congregation and are learning a LOT. The new covenant looks very different from a Jewish perspective. It brings the whole Bible alive and shows God's consistency from the Beginning.
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Just give it a rest....don’t you have a vacation to take or something. I don’t come around your threads dumping on the failings of your church, kindly let us work out our own issues and you can work out yours.
Well, technically, all these divisions (Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, Eastern Orthodox, etc.) are man-made. We are all part of the Body of Christ, and failings in one area can affect others.
That said, RCs trying to entice Anglicans to cross the Tiber is a bit of a cheap shot.
Love the outfit!
I’m going to stay.
I’m pretty sure the Episcopal church is the only one that would have me that I would be comfortable in.
But if my (conservative) diocese moves to another oversight, I would be just as happy, although my own parish is fairly liberal.
(It’s the Dallas diocese)
At least he has something fabulous to wear.
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How about that? Good catch. I’m reading ‘Hostage to the Devil’ by Malachi Martin, who was the official Exorcist to the Vatican.
It’s a book about five accounts of exorcism in the US. One of the possessed was a Catholic Priest. He’s slow omission of reference, or slight changes to the Catholic Mass, was one of the things that tipped parishoners off that something was wrong.
The priest was successfully exorcised.
In reality, anything but happy. He's been in two alcohol detox programs since his 2003 investiture.
I talked with someone who knows him personally (an unexamined-life liberal, who's all for homosexual clergy) and she said he was a really nice guy, great with people and an able adminstrator. That makes it all the sadder that someone with such abilities could be so totally misled, and actually, perverted...in life, and gospel.
We should actually pray for him, that God would hammer him until he repents--perhaps Robinson's alcoholism shows God is.
The fact is, the vast majority of Christian Episcopalians have been abandoned, if not actively persecuted by their Bishops. If one doesn’t live in an area served by one of the 4 shepherds, and the local parish won’t stand up to the Bishop, then faithful believers need to consider all of their options.
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