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My biggest fears may be realized. (Vanity)
self | 12/6/2007 | self

Posted on 12/06/2007 6:28:27 AM PST by Pistolshot

My biggest fears may be realized.

I don't post vanities too often, but this issue has kept me up most of the night. The ramifications of the shooting in Omaha have yet to be felt and what follows is something that we all need to consider and prepare to combat.

Earlier this year I made the prediction there would be a mass killing by another ‘troubled’ teen with an ‘assault’ weapon on the innocent, in this case an SKS in Omaha. It would occur in a large setting where CCW was not allowed and once again set off the Assault Weapons Ban demand from the anti-gunners. Utah didn’t do it, nor did Virginia Tech, because those didn’t use ‘assault weapons’ for their mayhem.

Now, that has come to pass, and in the heartland of America. The Omaha mall has posted signs requiring citizens to enter unarmed, and just about everyone complies, I would guess. In this instance, I would say EVERYONE obeyed this posting.

I, for one, have made numerous statements here on FreeRepublic that I will not ever go unarmed anywhere I go, except onto Federal property, or the courts. In the case of the shooter, his troubled past led him to do the abomination now covered by all the networks.

Nebraska has a ‘Shall-Issue’ CCW law, which means if you pass the requirements, you get a permit to carry concealed. Once again, the inability of a business, that doesn’t understand the dynamics of CCW, post a sign saying NO WEAPONS ALLOWED, and thereby leaving the innocent, and the capable from defending themselves.

The anti-gun people will scream something needs to be done about these weapons. I foresee legislation to increase in the age to 21 for ANY firearm purchase. As it is now, at age 18 you can buy a rifle or shotgun. I also foresee the Democrat controlled congress to bring the dreaded McCarthy Assault Weapons Ban(H.R. 1022) to the table for consideration and passage, and then all hell will break loose in the campaign.

For those of you who do not know what this bill is about check this link. H.R. 1022

The premise is to eliminate just about any weapon that is semi-automatic, be it rifle or shotgun, any magazine of 10 rounds or more, and the controlled transfer of any of the listed ‘assault weapons’

Now, why is this my biggest fear?

President George W. Bush promised Congress he would sign this legislation if it ever came to his desk. He said that with a Republican controlled Congress knowing it would never happen, but we are not in 2001, we are in 2007, a national campaign in progress, and a Democrat controlled Congress.

It is now a matter of time when we see this legislation come to pass, gun-shows will become extinct, and prices on 'assault weapons' will skyrocket again. Prepare to be swamped with ads and articles calling for this legilation

What will not happen is the look into the pharmaceuticals that have contributed to the problem of these troubled young men. Prozac , Paxil , and other Anti-Depressants have been incidental in these shootings since Columbine, yet NO ONE has called for more control over the dispensing of these drugs on our young. It’s the catch all of the psychiatric care of our children.

This is where we need to bring the discussion, and away from the firearm issue. It will do us all well to learn more about what the drugs dispensed to tour kids will do to them now, and in the future

Prepare yourselves my FRiends, there is a new storm coming.


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KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; banglist; drugs; guns; omaha
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"You’re confusing apples and oranges. Fights come to people who are looking for them."

No, I'm not confusing anything. You have a SERIOUS problem, much worse than confusion, if you believe that every law abiding gun owner with a concealed carry permit who refuses to be a victim is "looking for a fight."

81 posted on 12/06/2007 9:32:51 AM PST by penowa
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To: Wonder Warthog
"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it."

— William Burroughs, 1992

Great quote.

Another for you: Kaphar hunnu bhanda marnu ramro


82 posted on 12/06/2007 9:36:26 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: penowa
You have a SERIOUS problem, much worse than confusion, if you believe that every law abiding gun owner with a concealed carry permit who refuses to be a victim is "looking for a fight."

Where did I say that? I have no problem with concealed carry at all - I support it. I have a problem with the attitude of the original poster, because his post sounds like the stereotypical young gunslinger who takes his shootin' irons to town looking for a fight. Well, with that "I'll never be a victim again, damn it!" attitude he's going to find one, and sooner than he thinks.

83 posted on 12/06/2007 9:37:00 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“Robert Hawkins makes me think of Arthur Bremer, the 21-year-old guy who shot George Wallace...another loser who wanted to become famous. I don’t know if Bremer was suicidal.”

Bremer was just recently released from jail.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/23/AR2007082301140.html


84 posted on 12/06/2007 9:43:25 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Pistolshot

Concerned here as well.


85 posted on 12/06/2007 9:46:30 AM PST by stevio ((NRA))
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To: absolootezer0
egad, what’s with all the optics?

I hunt a lot with handguns. I'm getting older and my eye sight ain't what it used to be.

86 posted on 12/06/2007 9:48:17 AM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"I'll never be a victim again, damn it!" attitude...

How you twist someone's taking responsibility for his own safety into "looking for a fight" is beyond me.

87 posted on 12/06/2007 9:50:19 AM PST by penowa
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To: ArrogantBustard
"The mall company should be made to pay millions in damages to the victims."

"I agree ... that would require the victims or estates thereof to sue the mall. I would love to be a juror in such a case."

What do they employ UNARMED mall guards to do? Chase pesky kids running up and down the escalators the wrong way?

88 posted on 12/06/2007 9:54:19 AM PST by penowa
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Since I am the original poster, and you didn't address me, maybe you should.

Like I said in a response to you, if you haven't been there, we don't have any common ground, and you don't know what you are talking about.

89 posted on 12/06/2007 9:55:32 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Pistolshot
>>>What will not happen is the look into the pharmaceuticals that have contributed to the problem of these troubled young men. Prozac , Paxil , and other Anti-Depressants have been incidental in these shootings since Columbine, yet NO ONE has called for more control over the dispensing of these drugs on our young. It’s the catch all of the psychiatric care of our children.<<<

Created a controversy and then control it using methods that move the laws closer to our ideology. These drugs serve exactly that purpose, therefore will not be mentioned as potential causes for tragedies like just happened or like happened too often.

90 posted on 12/06/2007 9:55:37 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Fights come to people who are looking for them.

Got a head full of peanut butter there don't ya...

Where the people at this mall looking for a fight? Looks like the fight came to them and they were completely unprepared for it.

Ask yourself, why didn't this kid go shoot up a shooting range or a police station?

91 posted on 12/06/2007 9:57:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: penowa

The unarmed guard is supposed to confront young Thuggus Maximus, and tell him “Cut it out with the thuggery, or .... or ..... or .... I’ll have to tell you to cut it out again!”


92 posted on 12/06/2007 9:58:08 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Republican_Beauty
Welcome to FR!!!!


93 posted on 12/06/2007 10:00:00 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (It's what you get for free with National Healthcare that should scare you.....)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Wouldn’t you love to be small business person with a kiosk at that mall? You could ask one of the UNARMED mall guards to walk you to your car (parked at the outer edge of the lot so as not to take up shopper’s parking spaces in the busiest season) at 10pm with your bank deposit bag. I would certainly feel safe, wouldn’t you? Secure that an UNARMED mall guard could protect me and my hard earned $ from an ARMED “Thuggus Maximus” or 3.


94 posted on 12/06/2007 10:23:54 AM PST by penowa
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To: penowa
Unfortunately, there are a lot of the mall businesses that do just that. But without the guard.

The 'guards' in the mall are there to call the real police if something goes wrong. Some of the malls I have been in have police substations, but the owners of a lot of the malls don't like the 'intimidation' factor of having legitimate law-enforcement patrolling the corridors.

95 posted on 12/06/2007 10:33:42 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Or girlfriends/boyfriends from breaking up with their boyfriends/girlfriends (that happened a week before).


96 posted on 12/06/2007 11:06:40 AM PST by looscnnn (DU is a VD for the brain.)
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To: umgud

Is that Hi-Power a 9 or a .40?


97 posted on 12/06/2007 11:16:37 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I don’t own a gun but have thought about it. My husband and I use to go target practice and I loved it. Believe it or not I do believe there are mature people who can carry a gun and be ok!


98 posted on 12/06/2007 11:35:53 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Is that Hi-Power a 9 or a .40?

9mm. According to the S/N # it was made in 1969. It's in 98% condition and a really great shooter.

99 posted on 12/06/2007 11:39:54 AM PST by umgud (the profound is only so to those that it is)
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To: TexasRepublic

“Fights come to people who are looking for them.”

I think there’s something to that statement. BUT, being prepared to end a fight that somebody else starts is NOT the same as looking for a fight. I think the vast majority of people that carry weapons (probably even including most crooks) don’t want to be in a fight.


100 posted on 12/06/2007 11:51:33 AM PST by pelicandriver
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