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The Flaws In the Iran Report (John Bolton Reports)
Washington Post ^ | December 6, 2007 | John R. Bolton

Posted on 12/05/2007 9:00:14 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

Rarely has a document from the supposedly hidden world of intelligence had such an impact as the National Intelligence Estimate released this week. Rarely has an administration been so unprepared for such an event. And rarely have vehement critics of the "intelligence community" on issues such as Iraq's weapons of mass destruction reversed themselves so quickly.

All this shows that we not only have a problem interpreting what the mullahs in Tehran are up to, but also a more fundamental problem: Too much of the intelligence community is engaging in policy formulation rather than "intelligence" analysis, and too many in Congress and the media are happy about it. President Bush may not be able to repair his Iran policy (which was not rigorous enough to begin with) in his last year, but he would leave a lasting legacy by returning the intelligence world to its proper function.

Consider these flaws in the NIE's "key judgments," which were made public even though approximately 140 pages of analysis, and reams of underlying intelligence, remain classified.

First, the headline finding -- that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 -- is written in a way that guarantees the totality of the conclusions will be misread. In fact, there is little substantive difference between the conclusions of the 2005 NIE on Iran's nuclear capabilities and the 2007 NIE. Moreover, the distinction between "military" and "civilian" programs is highly artificial, since the enrichment of uranium, which all agree Iran is continuing, is critical to civilian and military uses. Indeed, it has always been Iran's "civilian" program that posed the main risk of a nuclear "breakout........"

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; bolton; cia; iran; irannukes; johnbolton; nie; nukes; roguecia; roguestatedept; shadowgovernment; statedepartment; statedept; wmd
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There is no doubt that the Intelligence community wants to feather its own nest at the expense of the Bush administation. I don't know what can be done about it when even illegal leakers are rarely found and prosecuted. The system is toxic.
1 posted on 12/05/2007 9:00:16 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The CIA and the State Department need to be flushed like a toilet.

They are vile, anti-American organizations and I have no trust in them—at all.


2 posted on 12/05/2007 9:09:21 PM PST by exit82 (How do you handle Hillary? You Huma her.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; tobyhill; ...
This is absolutely the most hideous thing the Leftists have done in some time....clearly demonstrates their callous disregard for this country and our allies...
3 posted on 12/05/2007 9:10:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
This report is unmitigated, brazen mendacity. It defies everything about what Iran has so palpably demonstrated in diametric opposition. This is an utter travesty that unravels the only realpolitik
approach to stopping Iran.
4 posted on 12/05/2007 9:12:25 PM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: exit82
The CIA and the State Department need to be flushed like a toilet.

Add to that the UN and you have a winning trifecta.

5 posted on 12/05/2007 9:16:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I can’t add anything to that, except for what’s in my tagline... Besides we needed to purge these pukes when George took office with his new broom... But, NO! We had to try for that “new tone in Warshington!” Phhhhhhhhhhht!!!


6 posted on 12/05/2007 9:16:55 PM PST by SierraWasp (Too many NIE contributors are ruthless, rogue resistance agents in our own CIA & State Dep!!!)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Another attempt to push their commie lefty views/policies...they've lost on every turn...Bush has always been the winner...as Reagan did against the commies...truth in the end always wins...and we've had complete truthfulness from both of those administrations.

Then you compare the pathological liars as the clintoons' both are and have been. The comparison is light vs darkness...good vs evil...

7 posted on 12/05/2007 9:25:15 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: america4vr
“It defies everything about what Iran has so palpably demonstrated in diametric opposition.”

And it defies common sense. If Iran halted its weapons program in 2003 it seems like the Iranian leadership would use that to avoid the sanctions, as a diplomatic bargaining chip, and as propaganda. They could have gotten all kinds of goodies out of the U.S., the Europeans and maybe the Gulf countries. Instead they have put themselves in the cross-hairs of the U.S. and Israel—who still may attack them at any time.

8 posted on 12/05/2007 9:26:51 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: AliVeritas

The Flaws In the Iran Report (John Bolton Reports) ping


9 posted on 12/05/2007 9:33:19 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
From the captain's Quarters:

When Did Fingar Change His Mind?

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One of the main authors of the recently-released NIE on Iran sang a different tune to Congress less than five months earlier. Thomas Joscelyn at the Weekly Standard notes that Thomas Fingar testified to the completely opposite conclusion on July 11th, 2007 -- that Iran continued to pursue nuclear weapons. This tends to substantiate that the change in posture came very recently:

10 posted on 12/05/2007 9:34:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is part of election year shenanigans where bureaucrats make new friends.


11 posted on 12/05/2007 9:36:58 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Brad from Tennessee
And it defies common sense.

Couldn't agree more. These Iranians are the wiliest, most nefarious bunch of gangsters that's for sure. Their foreign policy moves have been overwhelmingly successful, Hezbollah in Lebanon, bombings of
US, Israeli interests, Iraq.

Why this abandonment to acquire nuclear weaponry in the face of what has been one foreign policy success after another in a regime hell-bent to wreak as much havoc as possible?

I am overwhelmingly perplexed, stymied by what has been the unraveling of the only way to stop Iran.

12 posted on 12/05/2007 9:39:21 PM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
One would think that in two terms Bush would have cleaned out this cesspool. I am sick of reading about matters of national security in newspapers. How hard can it be to stop this? I haven’t heard of a single prosecution. What? Does the Administration like to be made a fool of?Our government is rotting from within. Fire someone already!!
13 posted on 12/05/2007 9:46:29 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

We need a conservative president to fire all the leftist clinton hold-overs in the CIA.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 9:49:55 PM PST by Mogollon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

Thanks Ernest!


15 posted on 12/05/2007 9:51:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, December 5, 2007 _________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: america4vr
Fortunately, after the partisan sound-bites are over, even the liberal news media is skeptical about this report. They are beginning to dissect it and will soon discredit it thinking it might embarrass Bush. Hans Blix claimed today that the U.S. intelligence community doesn’t want to take the blame for a new war so they reversed their assessment. Mohamed ElBaradei said the U.S. is being “more generous” in its assessment of Iranian nuclear activities than the U.N. They’re both saying it’s bogus.
16 posted on 12/05/2007 10:01:28 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Mogollon

If they are civil service, they can’t be fired easily.


17 posted on 12/05/2007 10:10:11 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Brad from Tennessee

What hath God wrought?


18 posted on 12/05/2007 11:07:21 PM PST by dr_lew
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I don’t know but it is amazing when two U.N. figures who both tout the NIE report as a giant Valium for the Mideast hint in the same interview that the assessment is a charade.
19 posted on 12/05/2007 11:13:44 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Well, the people could refuse to ever vote for another leftist. Might get their attention. Not holding my breath, but it is not like they have any magical ability to mess things up, absent the full consent of the American people to be royally messed up by them. In other words, lots of escapist fools want their lies to be true, that is the real cause of their existence.
20 posted on 12/06/2007 12:08:57 AM PST by JasonC
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