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To: bpjam; All; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 2ndDivisionVet; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; ...

There was a time a year or two ago (and he may still be there) when one of the analysts who helped prepare the daily intel briefings for the White House was an out and out anti-Bush member of the CIA and would Email a very liberal Democrat friend of his crowing about how he had slanted the presentation.

The friend sent me this, also crowing how the left wingers, anti-Bushies of the Democratic party had influence on the White House intel!!!

NIE is just another such biased presentation with no real connection to reality. The one source is a former Islamic Iran Defense Minister who defected and “disappeared” in Turkey. This single source (not usually enough for an intel assessment) was LONG RETIRED and not up to date on what was happening under Ahmadi-Nejad.

He was talking about 2003 when he was in the loop and this was extrapolated or falsely stated to still be the case in 2007!!

The defector, also a Revolutionary Guards Commander like the “new” President appears to have been an excellent plant, who had enough information to get refuge in the West but who still had an ex-wife and family back in Iran and the Mullahs were able to leverage his disinforming us.

NOTHING in 2003 continued to be valid or a basis for an assessment after August 2005 when Ahmadi-Nejad was “annointed” not elected as President of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

EVERY piece of info I have received since 2005 has indicated the nuclear weapons effort is in full swing. On an UPswing to be more precise.

As a Freeper pointed out, the nuclear war heads derived from old Ukraine fission material in North Korean nose cones in the early 90’s will have deteriorated and the new refined uranium would be used to revitalized the six to a dozen nuclear warheads Iran presently has on Shahab 3 missiles.

Singel source intel is looked upon with great disbelief or at best with extreme caution, yet the NIE built a whole weird, incredible, anti-Bush case on it. And did not release it through the White House, and Commander in Chief and technically their Boss.

What a bunch of crock and an endangerment of our country.


37 posted on 12/05/2007 6:41:34 PM PST by FARS
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To: FARS
What a bunch of crock and an endangerment of our country.

It's comforting in knowing that at least some see it and are comfortable enough to be pragmatic with this issue.

38 posted on 12/05/2007 6:48:16 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: FARS

This is very disturbing FARS. Someone may be recklessly gambling with the lives to tens of millions of people. If President Bush has counter information, and I believe he would, he needs to stand firm and find a way to decimate the liberals from the Intel Community.


39 posted on 12/05/2007 6:52:32 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: FARS
Imho, all of this hoop lah over the NIE (E=estimate) report is just mental masturbation. Some say the Bush admin. can't take military action now, or that Ivan or the Chicoms won't be on board with new sanctions (or, enforcing the old ones), or whatever, doesn't matter.

The President of the U.S. will protect this country regardless what Congress thinks, or the left in this country says or does. President Bush will authorize a military strike on Persia if he thinks it's in the best interest of the United States, period.

Oh, and btw, we have been at war with Iran since 4 November 1979. I don't care what the NIE says happened in 2003. It's payback time.

5.56mm

40 posted on 12/05/2007 6:59:00 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: FARS

I tend to buy your analysis of this report. It rings more true than the report does.


42 posted on 12/05/2007 7:06:56 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: FARS; HardStarboard; M Kehoe
"...What a bunch of crock and an endangerment of our country..."

It's a crock-of-sh!t alright and definitely an attempt to endanger the USA and the world. And just for short-term, political gain. But it's gonna fail!

President Bush has not done everything I wanted him to do, i.e. not arming Airline Pilots after 9/11 and pushing for the Shamnesty idiocy, but he has been steadfast in pursuing victory over terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq! No matter how hard the dimocRATS tried to force defeat in Iraq, he has refused to concede, and changed our strategies until victory was achieved.

Our President identified the 'Axis-of-Evil' as Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. That is now proven to be true. Hussien, (Sadamm, not Obama) is dead and Iraq is now learning to be a Democracy of sorts. Nork nuke material is glowing in Syria, and Iran is finishing building their first home-made A-Bomb, and probably intends to resurrect the old Soviet nuke-stuff they got after the collapse.

It doesn't matter what Fingar , the 'NIE', or anyone else says, President Bush is going to finish the job in Iran. He said he would, and I believe him. The traitorous dimocRATS have tried everything to make him ineffective, and he's beaten them every time!

Iran is going to get blasted in several ways, and the attacking Forces will try to minimize collateral damage, but their Nuclear Facilities will be history. Any time now is a good time .................................. FRegards

53 posted on 12/05/2007 8:38:58 PM PST by gonzo (http://www.forsalebyowner.com/listing/63472)
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Thanks for the ping, FARS, this has incensed me from the moment the story broke.

Damn, why can't we hang traitors anymore?

54 posted on 12/05/2007 8:55:38 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: FARS

Well done Fars.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


60 posted on 12/05/2007 9:14:23 PM PST by bray (Let's Bring Christ Back to Christmas)
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


62 posted on 12/05/2007 9:36:54 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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Thanks FARS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1935211/posts?page=37#37


63 posted on 12/05/2007 9:50:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, December 5, 2007 _________________https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FARS; All

I agree with Rush .. these people are downright scary.

This is flat out TREASON .. and I can’t help but wonder how much longer Americans are going to put up with it.


64 posted on 12/05/2007 9:56:54 PM PST by CyberAnt (AMERICA: THE GREATEST FORCE for good in the world!)
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