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Immigration Debate Unifies California GOP (Party Is Secure Borders Anti-Amnesty Alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 12/05/2007 | Phil Watson

Posted on 12/05/2007 9:37:45 AM PST by goldstategop

So, too, has a striking increase in the number of Californians who blame illegal immigration for the state's problems.

"There is more unity among Republicans in this state on illegal immigration than on anything else, including taxes," said Tom Hudson, chairman of the Republican Party in Placer County, near Sacramento, one of the most conservative counties in the state.

Among the GOP candidates, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has seized the issue with vigor, and U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado has made border security the centerpiece of his long-shot campaign, even airing a campaign commercial comparing illegal immigration with terrorism.

In Wednesday's GOP debate, Romney sharply criticized Rudolph W. Giuliani for providing "sanctuary" to illegal immigrants while mayor of New York City. Giuliani responded by accusing Romney of hiring illegal immigrants to work at his home. Former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee chided Romney and Giuliani as recent converts on the topic.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2008election; aliens; cagop; california; duncanhunter; immigrantlist; immigration; losangelestimes; philwatson; proposition187; secureborders; tomtancredo
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To: Just A Nobody

I’ve discovered that most republicans have as little knowledge about politics and conservatism as most democrats.


21 posted on 12/05/2007 11:00:23 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: DoughtyOne
...the California GOP leadership would take a twelve month vacation leading up to election day.

Either that or sharpen their knives and thrust them in the back of any conservative candidate.

22 posted on 12/05/2007 11:04:24 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Yes, they seem capable of just about anything ‘to help’. ;-)


23 posted on 12/05/2007 11:07:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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To: goldstategop
The CAGOP is against amnesty and for secure borders. It has unified rather than split the state party.

Sure, the party appears more unified, but:

1) It sure seems smaller as a result and,

2) The only leadership that can get elected statewide has figured out that they can't adopt the same position as the base.

Please don't misunderstand me. I'm against illegal immigration. However, I'm also pro-immigration generally. The way Republicans talk lately (especially Hannity and O'Reilly) the "pro-immigration" part gets totally obscured.

I'll say it again. Huckabee has this figured out. And yes, maybe he'll come down in favor of some sort of "amnesty" but anything short of "send everyone home no matter what if they or their parents or their grandparents got here illegally" is amnesty to a lot of you. Problem is, you can't win an election on that platform, though I guess it feels real good to keep shouting it.

As I see it, it's a two-part problem. One, what do we do about porous borders? Answer: Close 'em. Two: what do we do about the 20-25 million illegals who walked across when we had open borders (effectively)? My answer: Use some common sense and realize that most are hard-working people trying to help their families, then find a legal way for them to eventually continue doing that. There are plenty of options, but anything short of "send the ALL home" brings shouts of "Amnesty, Amnesty!" from too many people, especially in here.

I'm pretty sure Huckabee's answer is pretty close to mine, so let's see how the general electorate responds to his message. My bet? He continues to make significant gains the more people hear. But we'll see.

24 posted on 12/05/2007 11:24:45 AM PST by Norseman
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To: Norseman
My answer: Use some common sense and realize that most are hard-working people trying to help their families, then find a legal way for them to eventually continue doing that. There are plenty of options, but anything short of "send the ALL home" brings shouts of "Amnesty, Amnesty!" from too many people, especially in here.

That's because allowing people who broke our laws to get here to stay IS amnesty. The 1986 Amnesty Bill was called just that because it gave the criminals amnesty. The term was used honestly back then - and today you guys try to cover up what you are really for by using PC terms. But - it doesn't work. Every single amnesty bill has failed in the Senate in the last few years because the people know exactly what you are trying to do. People were irate and let their representatives know it.

I'm pretty sure Huckabee's answer is pretty close to mine, so let's see how the general electorate responds to his message. My bet? He continues to make significant gains the more people hear. But we'll see.

If that happens, then conservatism is dead. And 2008 will be a repeat of 2006. The Republican base will stay home or vote 3rd party.
25 posted on 12/05/2007 11:58:21 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: cripplecreek

Good enough place to bump this thread for later.

bmflr

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926032/posts


26 posted on 12/05/2007 12:22:31 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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