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The French and their gun laws
Washington Times ^ | December 5, 2007 | Paul Belien

Posted on 12/05/2007 8:29:47 AM PST by 3AngelaD

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To: 3AngelaD
From what I read of the article, the subway in Paris has no security cameras, the trains are empty heading out of town, there is no right to self-defense, and murderers and rapists get out of jail after a few years in prison.

Put this all together and it seems silly to me to not acquire a handgun by some means and pack it in France if you ride the subway. No-one will ever know you're carrying a gun and if you have to use it you'll never get caught. If you somehow do get caught after killing an attacker with it, the sentence will be relatively light.

21 posted on 12/05/2007 9:02:20 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: KeyesPlease

I don’t understand how Sarko can so sanguinely say, “If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life.” He’s a smart man, so his use of the word ‘more effectively’ is beyond my comprehension. If he had said ‘with reckless abandon’ instead, I could’ve understood (disagreed, but understood). But ‘more effectively’?! How does he know that? How dare he say that?!


22 posted on 12/05/2007 9:07:21 AM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: 3AngelaD
Mr. Sarkozy told French radio: “Security is the responsibility of the state. I am against the private ownership of firearms. If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life.

So much for my hopes for France and Sarko. I guess he's just a French Rudy Guiliiani.

23 posted on 12/05/2007 9:10:50 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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Bookmark.


24 posted on 12/05/2007 9:16:15 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen (Gone fishin.)
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To: EagleUSA

It was Leninist dogma and hence Liberal belief that the criminal classes are social allies of the Left, representatives of the repressed and oppressed classes and , handily, useful for intimidating the bourgeoisie- the middle class.


25 posted on 12/05/2007 9:17:32 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: 3AngelaD

French culture is being destroyed by French Socialism.


26 posted on 12/05/2007 9:17:53 AM PST by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Because, like most politicians, he knows what is best for you better than you do :-)

He is a statist. Pure and simple. To him, the state trumps the individual in matters of life and limb.


27 posted on 12/05/2007 9:21:08 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: 3AngelaD
If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life.”

This is a total liberal BS scare tactic. Anyone who owns a firearm for self defense will likely be better trained, prepared, and equipped than the average armed thug. I will guarantee you, here in Florida, if an armed person enters my home he or she will be at a major disadvantage and will very likely leave in a Police body bag.

My wife and I have a sign on our door that says, “The owner's of this property are armed. There is nothing inside worth risking your life for.”

28 posted on 12/05/2007 9:24:02 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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To: KeyesPlease
The french National Mascot: . . . . . . Meh. Nothing to worry about folks, just remember that the french will alwyas be there when they need us...again.
29 posted on 12/05/2007 9:29:36 AM PST by retr0 (He who argues with a fool is an even greater fool.)
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To: 3AngelaD
I don't think sharia law prevails in those parts of France. France's Muslim immigrants are almost completely secular, which means these mutants have far more in common with urban thugs here in the U.S. than with Muslims in the Middle East.

Take a look at any photos of the riots in France over the last couple of years. If you didn't know where those photos were taken, you'd swear you were looking at a scene in Detroit or Los Angeles. And the typical rioter in those photos looks no different than the suspects in the recent Sean Taylor murder, or the perps in the "Jena 6" attack.

30 posted on 12/05/2007 9:37:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: 3AngelaD
""We were attacked from all sides by youths armed with hunting rifles," one of the officers said. "The kids were shooting at us. I've never seen anything like it. It was like in a movie."...

That's just the muzzie clildren "playing". Just wait till their parents get mad, they are probably armed with better equipment that the French army, and outnumber them too. We are doing the same thing, allowing and paying an enemy army 5 times the size of ours to trench themselves in our own country. I bet Hitler is green with envy.

31 posted on 12/05/2007 9:38:45 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Sounds logical to me.


32 posted on 12/05/2007 9:43:40 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Not criticizing you. I just find this whole business more than a little upsetting.


33 posted on 12/05/2007 9:48:32 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alberta's Child
Agree with you about the urban thug thing, but...take a spin around the Internet before you say there is no push for Sharia in France with such certainty.

You might start with: http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-text/france-immigration.html

Then look at:

http://actuajihad.wordpress.com/2006/04/03/throwing-stones-at-girls-dressed-to-sexy-sharia-in-france/Throwing stones at girls dressed “too sexy”

Sharia in France.

Or maybe http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/008902.php

French Muslim leaders want autonomy, Sharia law

Then there is http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2007/03/23/the-multicultural-endgame-sharia-law-rules-europe

The Multicultural Endgame: Sharia Law Rules Europe

34 posted on 12/05/2007 9:51:31 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: fredhead

That’s why some here had better start paying attention, and begin arming themselves now...


35 posted on 12/05/2007 10:13:43 AM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: 3AngelaD
France is the one place in Europe -- if not the world -- where the government even went so far as to crack down on Muslim headwear in the schools. There's no such thing as a "private" school in France . . . even so-called religious schools are run by the state.

France is proud of their radical secularism, and they don't take kindly to any attempts to change that system. That's why you don't see the kind of radical Islamic nonsense in France that you see in Great Britain. If some imam gets up in a mosque and starts making statements against the French government, he's likely to be arrested by the police and deported from the country with the kind of "due process" that would make Pat Buchanan seem like a Mexican Muslim.

36 posted on 12/05/2007 10:13:46 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I am sure you are right. But are you comfortable with those blinders on?


37 posted on 12/05/2007 10:15:38 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: EagleUSA

“hand-wringing pandering socialists”

You forgot bed-wetting.


38 posted on 12/05/2007 10:24:31 AM PST by strings6459
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To: KeyesPlease
If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life...

That sentence caught my eye as well. I've heard similar statements from gun controllers in the U.S. as well - "he'll only take it from you." These are clearly not informed statements from anyone who actually owns firearms, because they're simply untrue.

A little range time will tell you who shoots and who only plays at it. 90% of the criminal class only plays at it. For them a gun is a magic wand, and if they're the only ones armed, it really is. If they aren't, it's just a gun.

The real irresponsibility here is to allow the criminal population to own and employ firearms without consequence and to deny that to innocent civilians. That isn't simply permitting a dangerous situation to eventuate, it's actively creating one.

39 posted on 12/05/2007 10:39:30 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
If you are assaulted by an armed burglar, he will use his weapon more effectively than you anyway, so you are risking your life.

That is BS, Buglers do not want to get dead. Shoot in the direction of the attacker about waist high and pull the trigger, reload and keep shooting. Then dial 911.

40 posted on 12/05/2007 11:13:49 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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