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Huckabee Bristles at Creationism Query
Associated Press ^ | LIZ SIDOTI and LIBBY QUAID

Posted on 12/04/2007 11:44:21 PM PST by Plutarch

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, a Southern Baptist preacher who has surged in Iowa with evangelical Christian support, bristled Tuesday when asked if creationism should be taught in public schools.

Huckabee — who raised his hand at a debate last May when asked which candidates disbelieved the theory of evolution — asked this time why there is such a fascination with his beliefs.

"I believe God created the heavens and the Earth," he said at a news conference with Iowa pastors who murmured, "Amen."

"I wasn't there when he did it, so how he did it, I don't know," Huckabee said.

But he expressed frustration that he is asked about it so often, arguing with the questioner that it ultimately doesn't matter what his personal views are.

"That's an irrelevant question to ask me — I'm happy to answer what I believe, but what I believe is not what's going to be taught in 50 different states," Huckabee said. "Education is a state function. The more state it is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are."

The former Arkansas governor pointed out he has advocated for broad public school course lists that include the creative arts and math and science. Why, then, he asked, is evolution such a fascination?

In fact, religion seems to be more of an issue in the GOP Iowa caucuses with one month left before the voting.

In recent weeks, Huckabee has moved from the back of the pack in the state to challenge longtime leader Mitt Romney, who would be the first Mormon president.... Christian evangelicals, by many estimates, make up anywhere from 30 percent to 50 percent of Republicans who will attend caucuses...

Earlier Tuesday in Newton, Iowa, Huckabee wouldn't say whether he thought Mormonism — rival Romney's religion — was a cult...

(Excerpt) Read more at ap.google.com ...


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: christianvote; creationists; evangelicals; huckabee; ia2008
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To: editor-surveyor
I’ve tried to explain to you that time is an element of position, and its recording is thus just as important as the other elements, but it is not the totality that you have imagined.

Time has nothing to do with position on the earth :) Time is simply a measurement to help determine the distance from a known point to an unknown point. Essentially all GPS positioning does is measure how long a signal takes to get to you from a satellite. That is it.

So lets summarize. You don't understand the basic principles of General relativity (you think the speed of light is additive), and you don't understand how the GPS system works (you think it is based on primarily on wavelength). You think that the earth is 10,000 years old and on the event horizon of a white hole. Does that about sum you up so far? : )

201 posted on 12/10/2007 11:34:52 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande

You’re hopeless!

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Get the book and you’ll see why I can have no respect for you. You can’t even admit that you didn’t ask the question that you meant to ask the first time. You are pathetic.


202 posted on 12/10/2007 11:43:11 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Get the book and you’ll see why I can have no respect for you. You can’t even admit that you didn’t ask the question that you meant to ask the first time. You are pathetic.

LOL you are the one that stated that timing wasn't used in GPS positioning.

I bet you couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written under the heel : ) You can run along now, it has been mildly entertaining, but trying to explain anything to you is foolish and I try not to be foolish. Understanding is not the same as parroting back words that you have read.

203 posted on 12/10/2007 12:57:25 PM PST by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
"LOL you are the one that stated that timing wasn't used in GPS positioning."

Go back and read my posts; they will speak for themselves.

204 posted on 12/10/2007 3:49:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: LeGrande
"Understanding is not the same as parroting back words that you have read."

I realized that that was exactly what you were attempting to do way back near the beginning. That's how you blew it on your first flashlight question; you forgot to put the guy in motion. All you had to do was admit it; no biggie, but instead you had to rant on.

205 posted on 12/10/2007 3:56:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Pro Creation, Anti Huck here.


207 posted on 12/11/2007 5:35:15 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
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To: HHFi

“She told me she couldn’t imagine ever voting for a Republican, but then she saw Huckabee speak and was amazed to find herself actually liking him. She said, “I don’t agree with most of his policies, but I got the feeling that he’s genuine and quick-witted and respects other people.”

A Huckabee quote:

“The single most important job a leader has is to make other people successful. It has been my own experience that if I will focus on making the people around
me successful they will in turn make me successful. Learn that it is always best to remember that people are working with you, and not for you.”
Mike Huckabee

Pg. 182 of “From Hope To Higher Ground”


208 posted on 12/11/2007 8:05:36 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Caramelgal

“I think Mike Huckabee is a very sincere guy and devout in his Christian beliefs. Jimmy Carter was also devout in his Christian beliefs as he understands them and certainly and quick-witted enough to be a Naval nuclear engineer and he was probably one of the worst Presidents in history.”

Being “devout” isn’t enough, being right is more important. Jimmy Carter was NEVER a true Southern Baptist, and he and his church represented the now gone left wing of the SBC. Jimmy Carter’s church, along with Jimmy, withdrew their association from the SBC because it had grown “too conservative” for them.

In truth there is NO real comparison between Carter and Huckabee. That is a gross misrepresentation that the rabid supporters of other candidates have started because they can’t stand to see Huckabee do well. I’m certain an over zealous one will eventually compare Huckabee to Hitler.

I personally don’t hold the candidate responsible for the actions of their adherents. I like Mike Huckabee, but I would rather see him as a VP to Thompson. I don’t like Thompson as much, but at this time in history, I think he would make a better president. Huckabee would shore up Thompson with the moral conservatives. Thompson could tutor Huckabee for a future run as president.

Oh BTW - being “clever” means being quick on your feet with a timely comeback. Ronald Reagan was a master at being clever. I’m not saying Huckabee is a Ronald Reagan, but his wit is very reaganisk.


209 posted on 12/11/2007 8:16:39 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Non-Sequitur
And I will state again that there are millions of people in this country who believe the Bible is literally true. That it is inerrant and a completely factual account of what actually happened; including the 6 days creation, Noah's flood, the Earth being thousands rather than millions of years old, the whole nine yards. And a lot of them post here. Don't believe me? Check out a Darwin thread sometime.

I believe all those things are literal discriptions, but I still acknowledge that the Bible is full of literary devices and figurative language. But you can usually tell the difference. Often the Bible itself will directly point it out.

What I don't do, is assume that if I can't figure out how God did something, that it must be figurative. I don't know how he can answer a prayer, much less the instantaneous healing of an ear, walking on water, or appearing in full flesh within a locked room. He's God for crying out loud. He's obviously smarter than we are. So I don't sweat it when our smartest scientists can't figure out what happened on Joshua's long day, or how to make a life form from scratch.

210 posted on 12/12/2007 3:58:43 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Yes, creationism should be taught in schools and yes, sadly Mormonism is a cult.

People who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old are a cult.

211 posted on 12/12/2007 7:46:45 PM PST by GunRunner (Thompson 2008 - Security, Unity, Prosperity)
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To: GunRunner
“People who believe the Earth is 6,000 years old are a cult.”

You may not like what they believe, but it is imprecise to label them as a “cult”.

212 posted on 12/12/2007 8:32:26 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Plutarch

This just in: Associated Press suffering from gross ignorance of the Word of God....


213 posted on 12/12/2007 8:37:35 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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