Posted on 12/04/2007 10:21:49 PM PST by Hardshell
Edited on 12/05/2007 4:02:19 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
DPS was watching burglars shot by Horn 10:16 PM CST on Tuesday, December 4, 2007 By Rucks Russell / 11 News Even before their deaths prompted a series of heated debates about the use of deadly force, detectives at the Department of Public Safety had their eye on Diego Ortiz and Miguel Dejesus.
The two were shot and killed by Joe Horn, a Pasadena man who thought they were burglarizing his neighbor’s home last month.
According to a DPS memo obtained by 11 News, the department was investigating the use of Puerto Rican birth certificates by Colombians seeking to obtain Texas driver’s licenses.
Both Ortiz and Dejesus had applied for licenses. Dejesus listed his country of origin as Puerto Rico, but both men were Colombian.
Apparently, the DPS is investigating hundreds of immigrants who may have used illegal papers to get Texas licenses.
But that’s not all.
A much wider probe has been launched into an organized syndicate of Colombians who are engaged in illegal weapons sales and home break-ins – just like the one Ortiz and Dejesus were involved in last month in Pasadena.
That day, Joe Horn and a shotgun stood in the way of the suspected thieves, but in many instances the suspects have gotten away.
The ATF, ICE and DPS have reportedly formed a task force to bring the crime wave to an end.
The burglars are said to be very effective at what they do, conducting extensive surveillance on their targets before striking. Some of the suspects are extremely violent.
The investigations have already led to several arrests.
Yep. If ICE doesn’t care about them, let them be sorted out in the morgue.
YGBSM. I am reminded of 1988 Democrat Presidential nominee Michael Dukakis. In an interview he did not support the death penalty for a hypothetical dirtbag who hypothetically raped his wife.
While I pretty much do agree with you, there are people out there that don’t have much sense. I would like to give that person a little cause for trying to think in broad terms when confronting someone. Are they actually committing a crime? Could they actually be an unknown member of the family?
That’s all.
See the difference?
Sure. I understand. So you would be willing to see to the execution of your wife’s rapist?
Also, say we are not talking about a TV. What about your home?
Your absolutely right in that of course.
W
Thanks WLR. You take care.
True—but somehow the existing laws regarding deportation never seem to be enforced. Perhaps if there was a greater penalty for employers, landlords, people who provide transportation, etc., greater attention would be paid to obeying the other existing laws. The worst are the churches, priests, food pantries, etc. that just keep them going in spite of knowing they are illegal. Then the churches claim they are sanctuaries! Wonder what it would look like to arrest some priest who thinks it’s more important to feed and lodge illegals than serve his legal congregates?
At the White House.
See him executed? I’d beat him to death myself.
Orwellian, to say the least.
Illegal Immigration Ping!
Diego Ortiz (far left) was one of the two criminals who was killed by Pasadena resident Joe Horn after they burglarized a neighbor's home and then entered Horn's yard.
Miguel de Jesus (near left) was the other criminal who "met his maker" as a result of his criminal behavior. De Jesus had a criminal history and was on parole when he was killed.
Miguel Dejesus and fiancee Stephanie Storey
The fiancée of one of the two burglary suspects shot and killed by a Pasadena homeowner denies he was part of an organized gang.
"Miguel Dejesus" and "Diego Ortiz" used fraudulent Puerto Rican birth certificates in order to obtain Texas driver's license.
DeJesus had a conviction for drug possession while Ortiz had a handful of misdemeanor charges.
Records show DeJesus was charged with failure to identify himself to a police officer in July 2004. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 20 days in jail. Ortiz was charged with possession of marijuana in July 2005, but it was later dismissed.
It wasn't reckless.
I am somewhat perplexed by your post.
You wrote, “Mr Horn should be fined for reckless discharge of a firearm inside city limits.”
What was reckless about using his shotgun as he so did was reckless?
Doesn’t prevention of a felony qualify as a lawful activity? If so, the discharge was legal, IMHO.
Who is de Jesus? #115 and #116 don’t look like the same person?
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